User talk:McChizzle: Difference between revisions

Thanks for uploading File:Gambrill State Park-Civilian Conservation Corps Statue.jpg. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have provided evidence that their copyright owners have agreed to license their works under the tags you supplied, too. Here is a list of your uploads. Files lacking evidence of permission may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described in section F11 of the criteria for speedy deletion. You may wish to read Wikipedia’s image use policy. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:33, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This statue is one of a series of “CCC Worker Statues”. The statue at Gambrill State Park is number 58 in the list. Since no sculptor is identified on the plaque, calling the park’s office might be a good way to identify the sculptor and the copyright holder of the statue.

—~2025-36331-98 (talk) 19:55, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Eppstein, I have uploaded hundreds of my photos to Commons using the Template:PD-user to give permissions for the use of my photos. Other than the content of the image being a problem, I don’t see an issue. Regardless there is already an image of this statue from Gambrill State Park in Commons, so given the concerns, I will ask that this image be deleted. —McChizzle (talk) 20:36, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The photo on Commons doesn’t show the plaque. Further, your photo shows greenery and a flag, so it is much more interesting. —~2025-36434-18 (talk) 20:56, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I contested the speedy deletion, because the photo on Commons would have the same copyright status. Either they should both be allowed, or they should both be deleted. —~2025-36434-18 (talk) 21:11, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged both on here and on commons. In general, images of artworks need permission of the artist and sometimes also permission of the photographer (depending on whether the photo itself adds copyrightable content beyond the artwork). In some countries like the UK and Canada, there is freedom of panorama allowing anyone to take and use photographs of sculptures displayed in public places; for a photo of a sculpture in such a country, we would only need permission of the photographer. But these are in the US and US copyright law does not include freedom of panorama for public artworks. Feel free to nominate the other photo on commons for deletion for the same reason. Many images on commons have dubious licenses, so the existence of another image on commons is not strong evidence that the artwork can be freely licensed.

I see that User:JBW has deleted the local copy of the file per WP:CSD#F8 but while I don’t think this is really problematic in this case I also don’t think that it is a valid F8 deletion. F8 deletions should only happen when an image is properly licensed on commons and I don’t think this one was. In fact, that’s how I encountered this image: I was going through the images tagged for F8 speedy deletion as having been moved to commons, but I did not think it was eligible for F8 because I believed the license to not be valid. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:52, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The plaque doesn’t identify the sculptor. However, the plaque clearly states that the statue was “Dedicated by Maryland Free State Chapter 113, Civilian Conservation Corps Legacy“.

I’m not a lawyer, so I can’t say if that means “Civilian Conservation Corps Legacy” is the copyright holder. However, their web site has a “Contact Us” web page.

—~2025-36434-18 (talk) 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK, David Eppstein, Thank you for pointing that out. I have restored the file and re-deleted it under criterion G7. I hope that’s OK, but of not please let me know. JBW (talk) 22:25, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As noted above, there is a fair use exception. Simply add Template:Non-free 3D art to the image page. See, also Template:Non-free use rationale.

It might be simpler to upload the image again with the Wikipedia:File_upload_wizard and select the “Upload a non-free file” option.

—~2025-36329-15 (talk) 07:39, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are numerous examples of images of sculptures on WP that have a fair use rationale. Here are two from the List of public art in Manhattan: Charging Bull, Fearless Girl. —~2025-36329-15 (talk) 07:53, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FYI:

• MQ-1C Gray Eagle companies have been inactivated.
• Combat Aviation Brigade air cavalry squadrons are being inactivated this December
• Division Headquarters and Headquarters Battalion are being merged with their division’s DIVARTY Headquarters and Headquarters Battery to form a Headquarters and Headquarters Battalion, which falls under DIVARTY.

Best regards, noclador (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! The HHB effort sounds strange. Can you provide any links to DoD articles related to all this? —McChizzle (talk) 18:03, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I saw you recently edited two Civil Affairs Brigades to focus on their DUI at the top of their infobox vs. their SSI as all Civil Affairs Brigades pretty much use the same SSI. I feel that it hurts consistency when looking at other units of the same size on Wikipedia, but I also see what you’re saying that it’s too generic. This isn’t a criticism or even a discussion per se, but do you think this is a result of the Army deprioritizing brigades and reprioritizing Divisions and other larger formations? TexasBob85 (talk) 22:57, 10 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]