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“Two vessels were sunk, the 9500 ton freighter ”’Ursa Major”’ off Spain on 24 December 2024″ – please add wiki link for [[MV Ursa Major]] article. [[User:AlexeyKhrulev|AlexeyKhrulev]] ([[User talk:AlexeyKhrulev|talk]]) 14:58, 23 September 2025 (UTC)

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== There is no Russian shadow fleet ==

There is no Russian shadow fleet, and the term ”’shadow fleet”’ doesn’t exist in international law. The vessels that carry Russian oil are not illegal, and they are controlled by entrepreneurs seeking profit and not by Russia. Ship owners can do little except comply when major Western states engage in piratry against them. Yes, it’s piratry, not ”’policing”’. The 2022 Russian crude oil price cap sanctions by the United States, United Kingdom, and European Union also have no validity under international law. Finally, since there is no ”’Russia’s shadow fleet”’, we know it has not ”’more than tripled in size”’ since sanctions were effected. The number of vessels carrying Russia oil has no definite size, and will constantly vary depending on risk and profit levels. [[Special:Contributions/59.168.164.13|59.168.164.13]] ([[User talk:59.168.164.13|talk]]) 09:00, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

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Add the following to the list of sanctioned ships in the article:

ROCKY RUNNER (IMO 9288899) (Unique ID: RUS2169)
DYNAMIK TRADER (IMO 9286657) (Unique ID: RUS2170)
FIGHTER TWO (IMO 9296391) (Unique ID: RUS2172)
SCF AMUR (IMO 9333436) (Unique ID: RUS2166)
SCF PECHORA (IMO 9333424) (Unique ID: RUS2165)
ZALIV AMURSKIY (IMO 9354313) (Unique ID: RUS2164)
NS LOTUS (IMO 9339337) (Unique ID: RUS2173)
NS COMMANDER (IMO 9306794) (Unique ID: RUS2174)
ADYGEYA (IMO 9292204) (Unique ID: RUS2171)
KOROLEV PROSPECT (IMO 9826902) (Unique ID: RUS2167)
PRIMORSKY PROSPECT (IMO 9511533) (Unique ID: RUS2168)

Source: https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/UKFCDO/bulletins/3a955ad TamsaVakaras (talk) 03:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: Can you fill all the information from these for the table? Ultraodan (talk) 09:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This should be a list in a new section. The article does not list UK sanctions now. TamsaVakaras (talk) 16:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Dr vulpes (Talk) 09:01, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The following ships were in the latest round of EU sanctions on the fleet:

MIANZIMU
PIONEER
ALISSA
MARABELLA SUN
CHRISTOPHE DE MARGERIE
ALTAIR
PETA LUMINA
SAN DAMIAN
SAN COSMAS
SAN SEVERUS
GALAXY
RIGEL
CASSIOPEIA
CONSTELLATION
ANDROMEDA
CALLISTO
ALLIANCE
PHOENIX
LEO
ZENITH
TURBO VOYAGER
SIRIUS
SATURN
LIFE
KRISHNA 1
VLADIMIR VINOGRADOV
MOSKOVSKY PROSPECT
BOLERO
VEGA
TYAGARAJA
ATTICA
LA PEROUSE
ELBRUS
PREMIER
PATHFINDER
SIERRA
TRUST
ZALIV AMERIKA
ZALIV AMURSKIYA
AMBER 6
EMILY S
FJORD SEAL
HEIDI A
LINE
OKEANSKY PROSPECT
CAPELLA
SIRI
NORTH WAY
NORTH SKY
NORTH AIR
NORTH MOUNTAIN

Source: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/maritime-news/15/maritime-security/2024/11724/eu-sanctions-52-new-vessels-of-russias-shadow-fleet-in-its-1 TamsaVakaras (talk) 03:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: Can you fill all the information from these for the table? Ultraodan (talk) 09:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This page’s “Short description”, which isn’t directly visible in this article, but displays on all pages linking here using “annotated links”, describes Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet” as “Vessels illegally operated by Russia”. But on what basis, exactly is this “illegal” label being used? Obviously the fleet isn’t illegal under Russian law, and I don’t believe it’s illegal under international law either, since, AFAIA, the UN Security Council has not passed any resolution against this fleet, nor has any international court ruled that its operation is illegal. From what I understand, these are simply ships which aren’t insured in London or by other Western insurers, and which ignore that price-cap which the G7 and a few of its allies tried to impose….But of course the G7 and whatever allies don’t get to write international law on their own. So I think a more neutral and fact-based description is needed….It’s interesting that in this article itself, no claim is made, nor is any citation provided for the fleet’s supposed “illegality”, so it strikes me that this annotated link description was edited to be biased/misleading while doing an end-run around the normal process of having to cite sources for such factual descriptions. –2003:CA:873C:A85B:4110:7A43:F02E:8AF8 (talk) 22:09, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is a comma that should be removed. Final sentence after the 2nd word. The line is – “After determining, that the Eventin” this is incorrect comma usage. 138.92.105.180 (talk) 19:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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“Two vessels were sunk, the 9500 ton freighter Ursa Major off Spain on 24 December 2024″ – please add wiki link for MV Ursa Major article. AlexeyKhrulev (talk) 14:58, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Nubzor [T][C] 15:07, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no Russian shadow fleet, and the term shadow fleet doesn’t exist in international law. The vessels that carry Russian oil are not illegal, and they are controlled by entrepreneurs seeking profit and not by Russia. Ship owners can do little except comply when major Western states engage in piratry against them. Yes, it’s piratry, not policing. The 2022 Russian crude oil price cap sanctions by the United States, United Kingdom, and European Union also have no validity under international law. Finally, since there is no Russia’s shadow fleet, we know it has not more than tripled in size since sanctions were effected. The number of vessels carrying Russia oil has no definite size, and will constantly vary depending on risk and profit levels. 59.168.164.13 (talk) 09:00, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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