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:There are many other sources referenced lower down the article that confirm his politics as described. The lead is a summary. But if you are requesting we should add even more sources then we can certainly do that. Subject is unabashedly proud of his beliefs, and has made a career of writing speeches full of them, so all of this is very well documented. [[User:Mfield|Mfield]] ([[User_talk:Mfield|Oi!]]) 04:15, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

::Wikipedia still engaging in far-left feedback loops, using its “trusted sources” to reinforce blatant propaganda. [[Special:Contributions/2.100.71.80|2.100.71.80]] ([[User talk:2.100.71.80|talk]]) 22:29, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

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Which is blatant authoritarianism. [[Special:Contributions/2603:7080:8F00:C425:4EDC:513A:C6DA:60F4|2603:7080:8F00:C425:4EDC:513A:C6DA:60F4]] ([[User talk:2603:7080:8F00:C425:4EDC:513A:C6DA:60F4|talk]]) 12:59, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] ”’Not done:”’ it’s not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|”change X to Y” format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!– Template:ESp –> {{pb}} Change X to Y means that you replace X with a part of the current text on the article, and Y with the new text you are proposing. You can use, if you want, {{tl|text diff}} for this. (You do not have to, but it is much nicer for the people reading your request) An example: {{text diff| the current text is stinky| the new text is fresh}} [[User:Slomo666|Slomo666]] ([[User talk:Slomo666|talk]]) 13:18, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

== Regarding objective accuracy, Stephen Miller should be marked as a White Nationalist. ==

He is clearly a white nationalist. His history clearly shows he is a white nationalist. He is a racist. wikipedia is supposed to be accurate. If you do not state he is a white nationalist, which is an objective fact, with huge amounts of evidence backing that fact. [[Special:Contributions/2403:5818:4BF6:0:7934:DD7F:75C7:B657|2403:5818:4BF6:0:7934:DD7F:75C7:B657]] ([[User talk:2403:5818:4BF6:0:7934:DD7F:75C7:B657|talk]]) 08:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

:You don’t know what accuracy is, and this comment shows it. Scary how this platform has been hijacked by far-left book nerds. [[Special:Contributions/2.100.71.80|2.100.71.80]] ([[User talk:2.100.71.80|talk]]) 22:26, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ―Howard • 🌽³³ 15:25, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Miller (advisor) → Stephen Miller – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. A pageviews analysis shows that there are no other Stephen Millers who even come close to the page views that this Stephen Miller has received since February 2017, when the article was created. The only claims of contention to this Miller being the primary topic are Stephen Miller, a Minnesota governor who served in that position for two years, and Stephen Decatur Miller, a governor who is more commonly known with his full name. To those arguing that the Minnesota governor preempts this Miller, I would point to Talk:John Ratcliffe#Requested move 17 February 2025, which concerns a very similar situation. This Miller clearly meets WP:PT1 and, based on the abundance of sources and his involvement in the federal government, WP:PT2. Additionally, this RM should only concern Stephen Millers, not Steven Millers or Steve Millers. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:25, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support, rather begrudgingly. I don’t really like making primary topics of names so widely used, but this clearly satisfies the requisite criteria and will overall improve the project. estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:43, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support certainly more notable, by leagues, than any other person with the same name. Simple page view statistics as cited above can show this. Bill Williams 04:59, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If and when that happens, Wikipedia will reflect that as well. It is rather clear that, yes, the readers are following the news. Last month, the club thrower Stephen Miller received 429 views, the second-most of anyone with that name. This Stephen Miller, through this article’s prior name and its current one, received 253,190 views. The difference is much more pronounced the previous month. It is unlikely that a club thrower is going to become more well-known than someone who influenced a country’s federal policies, particularly on immigration. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 12:32, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. KmartEmployeeTor (talk) 15:19, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 06:02, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moving it to “Stephen N. Miller” would better distinguish it from the other “Stephen Miller” pages on Wikipedia. Emiya1980 (talk) 09:58, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Futuremaineretiree (talk) 17:28, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Let’s not rush to judgment here. There are many “Stephen Millers” as can be seen by Stephen Miller, currently a disambiguation page with many, many entries. While this one is in the news every day, his day will pass. Let’s keep our perspective and take the long view. Coretheapple (talk) 17:35, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are many Bill Gateses as well. This is similar to the argument in the other oppose, and I’ll repeat what I said: It is unlikely that a club thrower is going to become more well-known than someone who influenced a country’s federal policies, particularly on immigration. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 16:55, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is it absolutely necessary for you to respond to every oppose? See WP:BLUDGEON Coretheapple (talk) 17:03, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to two out of three in total so far, primarily because I felt that those two claims were going to be the dominant counterarguments. Hardly bludgeoning. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:50, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Subject has been the most notable Stephen Miller for eight years now Rooves 13 (talk) 12:22, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Change “His politics have been described as far-right, anti-immigration, and white nationalist.” to “In 2021, one source described his politics as far-right, anti-immigration, and white nationalist” or find additional ones. 2A02:810D:AE1C:C800:B93F:74DF:699B:1F47 (talk) 03:36, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are many other sources referenced lower down the article that confirm his politics as described. The lead is a summary. But if you are requesting we should add even more sources then we can certainly do that. Subject is unabashedly proud of his beliefs, and has made a career of writing speeches full of them, so all of this is very well documented. Mfield (Oi!) 04:15, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which photo should serve as the lead image for the Stephen Miller (advisor) article?

Emiya1980 (talk) 23:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A is the least bad option imo. B is okay but the lighting is poor. C has him at a weird angle, and D shows an awkward expression. Anne drew (talk · contribs) 3 minutes ago

Given this is a choice over aesthetics and not other factors, A is the best per Anne, although B is the fascist subject at his prettiest. 🙂 Stefen 𝕋ower_{‘s got the power!!1!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 00:55, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I might agree with you in this case, but you aren’t representing yourself well in these discussions. See WP:BLUDGEON. Anne drew (talk · contribs) 01:07, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedians are required to discuss. Those are the rules. Those who don’t are not representing themselves appropriately. Also, I consider the pushing of these image discussions across articles to be on the disruptive side. You of course have a right to take umbrage at my umbrage. 🙂 Cheers! Stefen 𝕋ower_{‘s got the power!!1!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 01:17, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A — Per Anne drew. The foremost aspect of this debate I have noticed is the cropping. I have no objections to changing the crop, but there are some inherent issues with the other images that cannot be fixed by image modification alone. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:01, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Stephen Miller said on live TV “Under Title 10 of the U.S. Code, the president has plenary authority”.
Which is blatant authoritarianism. 2603:7080:8F00:C425:4EDC:513A:C6DA:60F4 (talk) 12:59, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it’s not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a “change X to Y” format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Change X to Y means that you replace X with a part of the current text on the article, and Y with the new text you are proposing. You can use, if you want, {{text diff}} for this. (You do not have to, but it is much nicer for the people reading your request) An example:

Slomo666 (talk) 13:18, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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