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:::::::::::::::::::apalah dia apalah [[User:Charlottelia|Charlottelia]] ([[User talk:Charlottelia|talk]]) 12:37, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::::::::::::@[[User:Charlottelia|Charlottelia]] Eh btw ini info pedigreenya dapet dari mana? [[User:Udaradingin|Udaradingin]] ([[User talk:Udaradingin#top|talk]]) 12:40, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::::::dari komenan postanku [[User:Charlottelia|Charlottelia]] ([[User talk:Charlottelia|talk]]) 12:45, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hello.

I see you’re active in Indonesian horseracing topic. May I ask, where do you get your sources for horse careers? Is it just from race replay videos? I’m trying to write an article about Princess Gavi, but I’m stuck when trying to find sources at internet (not many media covered her race :(.). Thanks, Rinai Natsumi (talk) 14:09, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hai @Rinai Natsumi can you use Indonesia language? if you can communication can be smoother. Anyway you can check this link to create the pedigree of Princess Gavi, also you can check on YouTube TAPAL KUDA 69 or Sarga. Co

https://studbook.or.id/princess-gavi Charlottelia (talk) 15:07, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! @Rinai Natsumi

Most of the sources I’ve found are either from YouTube or, if I’m lucky, from online news websites. As you can see, the official documentation of horse racing in Indonesia is, to my knowledge, very poor. In some cases, the results don’t appear at all on the official studbook website.

Milord‘s racing form is the easiest one to trace, since he was relatively well-documented and his career has already been compiled into a single video available on YouTube. Here are some channel recommendations for finding Indonesian horseracing videos:

Sarga. Co (active; from 2023 -)
BAHARNA TV (active, but not frequent; from ~2013 -; perfect for finding 2010-era horses)
Ersan Ramadhan (defunct; 2013 – 2017; perfect for finding 2010-era horses)
TAPAL KUDA 69 (active)
Pordasi Dki (defunct; 2013 – Triple Crown Series 1 2020; perfect for finding 2010-era horses)
the stable’s youtube channel (e.g. Bendang Stable or Aragon Stable Indonesia)
Any other channels as long as it’s reliable

Other than that, I suggest checking online news outlets like TribunSport, if they’ve written any related articles. I’m currently working on a project about Djohar Manik‘s racing form in collaboration with fellow Wikipedia editor. And let me tell you, it’s beenpainstakingly excrutiating. Good luck! Udaradingin (talk) 15:09, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Though I suppose if she was foaled in 2021, she probably debuted on the same year as King Argentin (2023). You can check videos on YT for late 2023 horseracing videos (Kejurnas Series 2, Ketum PP Pordasi) for the info. Udaradingin (talk) 15:11, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe this will help you a little

Pertiwi Cup 2025

1.600 M

https://youtube/cWHzWdBJ52c?si=LC1W_j-RU_NXodOG

Indonesia Derby 2025

2.000 M

Finish no 2

https://youtube/Xg6f8aAjavc?si=r8VvnGXEmT7mDjHG

Kelas 3 Tahun Remaja DIV I

1.400 M

https://www.youtubecom/live/CKdBfJc4Etw?si=mSVBTgPCGwBDKbLZ

Princess Gavi race at 4:23:30

Kelas 2 Tahun Pemula C/D Kejurnas Indonesia Derby 2024

1.200 M

https://youtube/N13dxCqGD98?si=eZwF4jgpPtfklKr7

She finishes without jockey, so her victory is not valid

Penyisihan Indonesia Derby 2025 – Kelas 3 Tahun Derby Heat II

2.000 M

https://youtube/xZ4PN4rFD2Y?si=BwBu5tWIW7ovf9M2

Princess Gavi race at 26:57

Charlottelia (talk) 15:17, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve helped you a little bit @Rinai Natsumi (⁠ʘ⁠ᴗ⁠ʘ⁠✿⁠)

You can check your Princess Gavi draft. Charlottelia (talk) 16:18, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Charlottelia, @Udaradingin: Ok, ok, makasih bantuannya. Nanti coba ku riset lagi. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 01:49, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

okeyy, btw udah kutanyain ke Admin Sarga mereka punya data race record kuda atau engga, siapa tau kalo ada nanti kutanyain punya datanya princess gavi atau engga Charlottelia (talk) 02:10, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kalau bisa sekalian tanyain juga yang Djohar Manik ya, lagi rada struggling nih. Udaradingin (talk) 02:25, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

sayang pihak sarganya engga punya data racenya, ada yang tahu sosmed nya PORDASI kah? admin sarganya nyaranin buat nanya langsung ke pihak PORDASInya Charlottelia (talk) 03:43, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Charlottelia: IG-nya Pordasi aktif tuh (@pordasi.id), terakhir ngepos 5 hari yang lalu. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 04:46, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

okeyy, nanti coba kutanyain habis selesai sekolah wkwkwk Charlottelia (talk) 05:56, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Udaradingin Untuk sementara bolehkah itu Race form Djohar manik kupindah ke draft? Charlottelia (talk) 10:26, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tar duluu itu belum diupdatee, yang 2017-2019-nya juga masih belum lengkap… Udaradingin (talk) 11:13, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

okee, mau tanya yang PP itu maksudnya gimana? Charlottelia (talk) 11:15, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh, itu nomer pelana kayaknya. Kan kalo yang entry/field itu ada total berapa kuda yang lari, nah yang PP (post position) itu kuda nomor berapa. Udaradingin (talk) 12:28, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seudah aku crosscheck lagi, ternyata PP itu nomor gate, bukan nomor pelana. Kalo nomor pelana harusnya HN (horse number). Udaradingin (talk) 12:29, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

owalahh, makasi informasinya Charlottelia (talk) 12:33, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sebenernya racing form gak wajib-wajib juga sihh. Diisi aja dulu racing careernya. Udaradingin (talk) 12:59, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Itu aku udah update, tapi masih belum 41 race. Lagi nanya nanya siapa tahu ada yang bisa bantu wkwkwk Udaradingin (talk) 17:23, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

atau sebenernya 41 race itu termasuk penyisihan juga? Charlottelia (talk) 23:25, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wkwk nah itu, yang kulihat di berita seudah Jakarta Derby 2015, dia udah lari 12 kali. Berarti kan dia lari 12 kali termasuk Jakarta Derby, dan kebeneran sebelum Indonesia Derby 2014 dia ikut 1 lari penyisihan sama 11 lari biasa. Kalau ditotal larinya termasuk penyisihan jadi 12 kali lari. Itu yang sejauh ini bisa kusimpulin. Udaradingin (talk) 23:42, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

pertanyaannya penyisihan bisa dimasukin ke list atau engga? Charlottelia (talk) 01:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Karena ngikut referensi dari berita, ya ku masukin. Udaradingin (talk) 03:00, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Untuk saat ini disimpennya begitu. Kalau misalkan ketemu lomba baru di antara bulan Agustus 2014-Januari 2015, berarti yang penyisihan gak usah dihitung. Udaradingin (talk) 03:29, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Segini cukup kali ya? Udah ku submit sih, moga cepet di-acc. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 14:29, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

gapapa gitu ajaa, doain juga Draft Djohar Manik cepet di acc Charlottelia (talk) 01:56, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, mau nanya. Tegalwaton Racecourse itu aslinya dibangun tahun berapa ya? Di artikelnya ku tulis 2001 karena ngerujuk sumber ini. Tapi barusan aku ketemu artikel ini di webnya Sarga, di situ bilang kalau Tegalwaton itu dari jaman pra-kemerdekaan udah jadi pusat pacuan kuda, dan puncaknya di tahun 1960 sampai 80-an.

Barangkali punya info lebih detailnya hehe. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 12:48, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hai @Rinai Natsumi. Jadi, salah satu catatan pacuan kuda modern terawal di Indonesia itu waktu di bawah kendali Inggris. Mereka waktu itu ngadain acara pacuan kuda di Salatiga tanggal 24 Oktober 1812. Kutipan:

“The long continued dry weather had given the woods and downs the russet tint of autumn. The huge mountain of Salatiga wrapped her head in mists and clouds, Her giant volcanic brother of Boyalallie hid his naked craggy cliffs in the same fleecy marble.“

Dari nama gunungnya (kemungkinan ngerujuk ke Merapi/Merbabu) kemungkinan lokasinya cenderung mengarah ke Tegalwaton. Cuman kita kurang tau itu pacuan yang sama sm Tegalwaton atau bukan. Kebetulan artikel ini lagi kupake buat artikel tentang pacuan kuda di indonesia secara umum

Anyway, aku nemu jurnal yang bilang kalo pacuan kuda Tegalwaton (yang kita kenal sekarang) itu dibuat awal tahun 2000-an. Sebelumnya, lahannya ditumbuhin pohon rami (c. 1965) kemudian jadi ladang tebu (1970an). Udaradingin (talk) 13:28, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oke, makasih infonya. Jadi, daerah Tegalwaton itu dari jaman kolonial memang udah dikenal sebagai “kampung kuda”, cuman trek pacu ‘modern’-nya baru dibangun tahun 2000-an. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 12:09, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Udaradingin mau nanya pas Jateng Derby 2019 pas djohar manik ikut di kelas A terbuka 2000/2200M udah dimasukin list kah? atau ga perlu dimasukin? tapi kalo ga dimasukin kurang sreg karena itu termasuk salah satu racenya dia Charlottelia (talk) 12:26, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Udah dimasukin, ya. Makasih banyak inputnya! Aku lagi buntu-buntunya kemaren. Btw kayaknya yang race penyisihan mending gak usah dimasukin kali ya. Nanti ku-update lagi. Udaradingin (talk) 13:18, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

oke sama-sama, dikasih catatan aja di bawahnya alasan penyisihan engga perlu dimasukin kenapa gitu, tadi aku hbis nambahin earning/pendapatan si king argentin, princess gavi mungkin nyusul soalnya hbis ini ada keperluan Charlottelia (talk) 13:47, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ini earningnya didapet dari total hadiah lomba dia? Udaradingin (talk) 15:04, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

yap, kan ada tuh keterangannya, kayak argentin menang Indonesia Derby kemarin hadiahnya 300 jt, nah terus ku itung total semua race yang dia menangin, totalnya sih ku itung 955 jt perlu crosscheck lagi sih siapa tau salah liat angkanya. Btw pas argentin race di jateng derby menang tuh hadiahnya sah atau engga? Charlottelia (talk) 16:00, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Menurut berita dari RRI, katanya penobatan juara batal. Hadiahnya dibagi rata ke semua 11 peserta. Udaradingin (talk) 16:35, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

berarti semua kuda termasuk king argentin dll dpt hadiahnya? tau hadiahnya berapa juta?? Charlottelia (talk) 22:21, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

100 juta. Asalnya ada 12 peserta, cuman satu kuda batal ikut, jadi yang race cuman 11. Udaradingin (talk) 23:37, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

berarti argentin dpt hadiahnya? Charlottelia (talk) 03:08, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yap, karena dibagi rata ke semua peserta. Udaradingin (talk) 03:29, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oke nanti kuganti earningnya argentin Charlottelia (talk) 03:59, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

btw kenapa Pulomas engga aktif lagi sejak 2016? Charlottelia (talk) 07:20, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pacuan Pulomasnya diganti jadi Jakarta International Equestrian Park, venuenya dipake buat Asian Games 2018. Sebagian dari tracknya digusur, jadi gak bisa dipake buat pacu lagi. Udaradingin (talk) 08:40, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

owalahh gitu, btw pememang Indonesia Derby dari tahun 1974-2025 udh kutambahin di list of racehorses. Biar rame aja gitu kuda dari indo wkwkwk. Btw barusan aku minta tolong di grup fb umamusume lokal buat bantuin nyelesain race record nya djohar, semoga aja ada yang penyelam handal dan mau membantu. Charlottelia (talk) 09:38, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wkwkwk sipp makasih yaa. Ingfokan nama grupnya Udaradingin (talk) 12:04, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Udaradingin

https://www.facebook.com/groups/817518577528642/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT Charlottelia (talk) 12:12, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

kutebak udah masuk grupnya inimah, update pedigreenya udah lengkap, diberi tau orang kalo pejantannya mini satria itu blandford park, sedangkan induknya let’s ivor. Charlottelia (talk) 12:13, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WKAKAKAKAKAK

Okee noted, thank you~ Udaradingin (talk) 12:35, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

apalah dia apalah Charlottelia (talk) 12:37, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Charlottelia Eh btw ini info pedigreenya dapet dari mana? Udaradingin (talk) 12:40, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

dari komenan postanku, gatau bener apa engga nya wkwkwkwk, semoga aja sih bener pejantannya Blandford Park induknya Let’s Ivor. Kalaupun salah anggep aja sementara bener wkwkwkwk Charlottelia (talk) 12:45, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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