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The text for the GXP description seems to be lifted from another source…

http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/10963/2007-pontiac-solstice-gxp.html
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/AutoshowArticles/articleId=108749

Is that the official Press Release text? If it is, can wikipedia use it legally?
-LRW

I haven’t heard of the Chevrolet G2X- where is this information comming from?
—Tom Dietrich 14:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t know. There is however a Daewoo G2X-that could be what that is referencing. I’ll change it to the Daewoo. Bok269 13:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The picture that I posted on Wikipedia is a possible image violation. This picture will be deleted on Wikipedia, but a new picture of the Solstice will be posted soon. I owe it to you guys. Sorry. —The Helper S

I replaced the photo last night.

The entire performance section appears to have been lifted from this page:

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/9967/pontiac-solstice-page3.html

I’m pretty sure that’s a copyright violation, so I have removed it. Zwilson 23:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I’m removing this link since it’s just pointing to the site’s home page. http://www.thedrivingguru.com/ Get Shorty 03:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The trivia section, aside from being against guidelines, is huge and in need of serious paring. I think first on the chopping block should be the bit about parts-sharing – surprise, surprise, it is a GM vehicle and it shares parts with other GM vehicles. Ayocee (talk) 20:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About 100 Solstices and a few dozen Skys were converted to V8 engines by Chuck Mallett direct from the Delaware Wilmington plant. Various options included a big-brake kit as well as several Corvette-supplied GM LS engines. A small section should add this conversion as it did 8 years ago as noteworthy. Typically the conversion was an LS2, 400 Hp option, though a few LS3 and LS7 swaps were made. These were official GM upgrades that could be purchased at Pontiac dealerships as a Mallett conversion for about an additional $31000. When I bought my Sky Redline in 2008 I had that option from the Saturn dealership but passed. I have one of the V8 Solstices.

I have seen absolutely mind-boggling variations on what the weight of these Kappa vehicles are, and it can’t just be options on the Sky/Solstice, because the GXP Solstice has been reported at 2,976 lbs on the information widget here (found in absolutely none of the sources from what I can tell) while the source at Car and Driver (https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15149527/2009-pontiac-solstice-gxp-coupe-instrumented-test/) calls the GXP “49 pounds heavier” than the base model, but by our widget, that would make the GXP 2909 lbs (2860+49), and I’ve seen anything from 3080, 2900, “just under” 3000, whatever the heck that means…

It would behoove us to find a better source on this and more importantly something consistent. If anyone can help on this, that would be appreciated, thank y’all. TheSaturnLover (talk) 03:33, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to propose a merger of the Solstice and Sky pages on the basis that the G2X is lumped into the Sky page. The Opel GT, being a continuation of the namesake of the older GT and a predecessor to the modern GT concept, should probably retain its own page. However, the Sky is a full rebadge of the Solstice with almost exclusively cosmetic differences. Furthermore, should this be done, it could be merged with the Kappa platform page, too, as this hypothetical article would essentially be the Kappa Platform automobile page.

Given no protest to this, I will begin writing a draft of this page 🙂 TheSaturnLover (talk) 15:39, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m curious what other editors think of this proposal, as well as how you plan to execute it, particularly in regard to which sections you plan to keep or get rid of. When it comes to cars that are close to being rebadges (same platform and powertrain), but with noticeable styling and interior differences, the precedent for merging is unclear. Cars like the 3000GT/Stealth are merged into one page, while cars like the Matrix/Vibe retain their own pages. Cars that are more similar, like the 86/BRZ, are merged, and cars that are less similar, like the Miata and 124 Spider (different engine same platform), are separate. Also, as far as naming goes, i’m guessing you plan to merge the Sky article into the Solstice article and use that article’s name since the Solstice was introduced first. I wouldn’t support the new page being under the name “General Motors Kappa Platform” though as that would be confusing for average readers. TKOIII (talk) 20:09, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TKOIII yeah, fuzzy precedent would probably complicate a lot… don’t worry, I may be TheSaturnLover, but chronology is something I respect. Names I consider would include:

“Pontiac Solstice”

“General Motors Kappa Platform Vehicles”

“General Motors Kappa Roadsters”

(with redirects for Solstice /where applicable/ Sky, G2X, and some kind of redirect for the GT, although how to do that without stepping on the toes of the current GT article)

some variations on names may be nice. Truthfully, this is a lot more conceptual than reality right now. I don’t want to start if the project would be inherently unpopular. 🙂 TheSaturnLover (talk) 21:01, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The only one of those I see as being viable would be merging everything under the Solstice name, with the other articles redirecting to it. There aren’t any car articles I know of where the main article is under the name of the platform, as it makes finding the article difficult (particularly through Google search), even with redirects. With merges like this, one of the key considerations is whether you’re actually making the process of finding and reading the article easier and clearer for an average reader and not more difficult. TKOIII (talk) 21:27, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reasonable points. I thought precedent on G2X was good for a starting point, but it’s not unlikely such a merger as this would only further obscure the memory of the Sky & G2X in a somewhat frivolous attempt at accuracy. TheSaturnLover (talk) 21:42, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to revive this discussion for review. Upon viewing the Opel Astra/Saturn Astra case, I think it may be a good idea to merge Solstice/Sky/G2X articles into one… need clarity on what to make of GT.

I think this may be the preferable option because arbitrarily having vehicles that are functionally the same be separated by article may create a precedent for continuing this, even with more minor vehicles with fewer sources. As the G2X is not split from the Sky article, I think the Sky should not be split from the Solstice article.

Should the Astra’s example be used? TheSaturnLover (talk) 21:21, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t have a particularly strong opinion here, save for what I said earlier that it should use the name of one of the cars, probably the Solstice, rather than the platform name. I think your next step should be to formally propose a merger according to the instructions in Wikipedia:Merging, which will raise attention to the idea, and allow you to get feedback from other prominent editors on what they think of it. TKOIII (talk) 02:45, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]