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The one who raised the issue favored one of the screenshots showing the intensity of that tornado. However, a huge tornado isn’t that surprising to look at, IMO, despite casualties and devastating losses and damages. Not just the [[WP:NFCC#3a|”minimal number” issue]], the more concerning would be [[WP:NFCC#8|”contextual significance” issue]]. Of course, one would disagree and choose either one, but even with captions, the tornadoes depicted in the screenshot… I couldn’t tell the difference from other tornado incidents other than… text, and non-free image still wouldn’t improve my understanding of the tornado itself impacting [[Washington, Illinois]]. (I’d thought about [[WP:NFCC#1|”irreplaceability” issue]] initially, but then I don’t know freer images depicting that tornado itself, so…) [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 20:29, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

The one who raised the issue favored one of the screenshots showing the intensity of that tornado. However, a huge tornado isn’t that surprising to look at, IMO, despite casualties and devastating losses and damages. Not just the [[WP:NFCC#3a|”minimal number” issue]], the more concerning would be [[WP:NFCC#8|”contextual significance” issue]]. Of course, one would disagree and choose either one, but even with captions, the tornadoes depicted in the screenshot… I couldn’t tell the difference from other tornado incidents other than… text, and non-free image still wouldn’t improve my understanding of the tornado itself impacting [[Washington, Illinois]]. (I’d thought about [[WP:NFCC#1|”irreplaceability” issue]] initially, but then I don’t know freer images depicting that tornado itself, so…) [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 20:29, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

* ”’Keep”’ [[:File:Washington, Illinois tornado at peak intensity.jpg]], ”’delete”’ [[File:Washington tornado seen over rural farmlands near Roanoke, Illinois.jpg]]. Generally accepted that non-free images of tornadoes are fine in articles (I can name a few discussions regarding this, but it’s late) but I don’t see the need for two of them. <big><sup>[[User:EF5|<span style=”color:#A188FC;”>”’E”'</span>]]</sup></big>[[Special:Contributions/EF5|<span style=”color:#A188FC;”>”’F”'</span>]]<sup>[[User:EF5/Creations|<span style=”color:#A188FC;”>”’5”'</span>]]</sup> 00:54, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

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December 9

File:Bangkok skyscraper collapse.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by EF5 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Uploader seems to be suggesting that anything created by a dashcam is public domain. I cannot find any precedent for such a broad, sweeping claim about dashcam footage. aaronneallucas (talk) 00:21, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aplucas0703: See PD-automated on Commons; things not produced by human input are indeed generally considered public domain. Dashcam is not specifically mentioned but from other categories and uploads I’ve seen it generally falls under this. Camera does not move at any point during the video this was taken from. EF5 01:13, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@EF5 I’m really not convinced of this argument. I think someone could easily (and correctly) argue that choosing where to drive their car is human input sufficient for copyright protection. This might apply to CCTV footage or traffic cameras that receive no input, but a moving car is significantly different. By this interpretation, all footage captured from a drone would be in the public domain. It’s difficult to even know if the footage was captured by a camera manually activated or automatically activated, but I don’t think it matters in this case. aaronneallucas (talk) 01:25, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@EF5 The category you cite is populated almost entirely by items with other licenses. aaronneallucas (talk) 01:28, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I concede that point but the rest of what I’ve said is still a valid argument. EF5 01:34, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You could argue that, but then that’s equally an opinion as mine. Dashcam has been a subject of contention (in the US), although I’ll note that looking up ToO in relation to dashcams in Thailand I find zero results, so there doesn’t appear to be any defined law relating to CCTV/dashcams. EF5 01:32, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove. – Dashcam video is not “entirely of information produced by an automated system.” Nor is it the “work of a computer algorithm or artificial intelligence.”
 ⚙️ WidgetKid 🙈🙉🙊  17:47, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
File:Chittaprosad-Hungry-Bengal-sketch1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lingzhi (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Should be PD-India due to time period of publication JayCubby 15:07, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:SheriffJohnStone.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CoryGlee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

F5 CoryGlee 15:10, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Washington, Illinois tornado at peak intensity.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GrenadinesDes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Washington tornado seen over rural farmlands near Roanoke, Illinois.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GrenadinesDes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Uploaded last year and then inserted to the “2013 Washington, Illinois tornado” article. This matter was raised recently, but not much discussion has been made (WT:NFC; article talk page). I’d thought about PRODding the images initially, but then I fear the possibility of the active uploader reverting the tag to contest the deletion proposal.

The one who raised the issue favored one of the screenshots showing the intensity of that tornado. However, a huge tornado isn’t that surprising to look at, IMO, despite casualties and devastating losses and damages. Not just the “minimal number” issue, the more concerning would be “contextual significance” issue. Of course, one would disagree and choose either one, but even with captions, the tornadoes depicted in the screenshot… I couldn’t tell the difference from other tornado incidents other than… text, and non-free image still wouldn’t improve my understanding of the tornado itself impacting Washington, Illinois. (I’d thought about “irreplaceability” issue initially, but then I don’t know freer images depicting that tornado itself, so…) George Ho (talk) 20:29, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:E nomine finsternis limited edition CD cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by R.E. Freak (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unnecessary per WP:NFCC#3a due to File:Finsternisalbumcover.jpg. ScalarFactor (talk) 23:18, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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