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I’ve read through this, and it feels less like a biography and more like a political manifesto to me. The guy doesn’t pass WP:NPOL. He is a prospective independent candidate and a spokesperson, and neither of those grants notability. The entire article rests on WP:BIO1E. The subject wasn’t notable before these specific, recent protests and his death. It’s classic recentism. The article probably also ignores WP:NOTNEWS. Jībanmṛta^message 08:40, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Move to Assassination of Osman Hadi – The person became more notable after his assassination and this event triggered related events in Bangladesh. What I am saying the events of his killing and associated events are more notable than the person himself. He received trivial coverage before his assassination, but they are not up to the mark for a standalone article on him. So, I am proposing to move, not delete completely. Rht bd (talk) 09:12, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This seems like the only viable option if we’re desperate to keep something. The incident has weight. Sure, but the biography is basically puffed up to look like he was some national hero beforehand. Jībanmṛta^message 11:40, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Care to back that up? Saying “definitely notable” doesn’t make pre-2025 sources appear out of thin air. Jībanmṛta^message

Was it really a “prominent organization”? Or was it just loud during the protests? And calling thy guy a politician for being an independent candidate who didn’t win is a massive stretch. That simply doesn’t meet the bar for WP:NPOL. Jībanmṛta^message 11:26, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy keep: The subject’s notability does not rest solely on his death, so WP:BIO1E does not apply. He had an established public profile prior to his death, with independent coverage of his political activism, leadership roles, and participation in sustained political movements, which satisfies WP:GNG and is consistent with WP:NPOL, which does not limit notability to elected officials or candidates. Emdad Tafsir   ◀ Talk ▶ 10:04, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think we’re reading different policies. WP:NPOL is pretty clear that just running for office or being a local activist doesn’t cut it. The “established profile” you’re talking about seems to be entirely tied to the recent violence. Take that away, and what is actually left? Jībanmṛta^message 11:34, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. It is not one event, there was coverage of him before death. Notability existed before assasination, he is notable as an activist. BilboBeggins (talk) 10:28, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep : He was notable even before his death, he founded the Inquilab Moncho. Even before his death, he was popular as he was an independent MP candidate. His death is not the only reason for which the article had been created. 𝗭𝗲𝗽𝗵𝘆𝗿 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 10:41, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Being a candidate gets you nowhere on Wikipedia unless you actually win or have a major impact. And Inqilab Moncho isn’t exactly a legacy institution. Jībanmṛta^message 11:32, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Osman Hadi MUST be kept as a totally separate subject in Wikipedia as he is a very significant figure in the July Revolution in Bangladesh. He is also the spokesperson of the institution Inquilab Mancha of Banlgadesh. His death is also prominent in recent Bangladeshi history and thus, must be treated accordingly. ~2025-41818-10 (talk) 11:21, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But WP:BIO1E exactly says that someone who is only notable for their role in a specific event or short period. “Since July” is the problem. It’s too short a window. If we write bios for every activist who gets quoted during a revolution, Wikipedia won’t remain an encyclopedia anymore. will become a memorial wall. Jībanmṛta^message 11:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy keep. There is extensive coverage of the subject, and it passes WP:GNG. While it may be debated whether the subject was notable before or after his death (thus, whether the appropriate title should be Osman Hadi or Assassination of Osman Hadi), AfD should not be used as a venue for move discussions. The nominator should consider withdrawing this AfD nomination and instead start a move discussion on the article’s talk page. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 11:37, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. The subject meets WP:GNG. Independent, reliable sources covered Osman Hadi before his death in connection with sustained political activism and organisational leadership, not solely the assassination. While coverage increased after December 2025, notability was not created ex nihilo by a single event, so WP:BIO1E does not apply.

Concerns about tone or overemphasis on recent events are valid but are grounds for trimming and improvement, not deletion or forced merger. A separate biography remains appropriate where pre-death coverage exists.Whitepedia (talk) 11:44, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Move to Assassination of Osman Hadi (This is my first time in such settings) After a rudimentary understanding of the stated policies above, I do agree with User:Win Kyaw. The person wasn’t notable before he got assassinated so the correct title should include the assassination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M Rawnok Mahfuz (talk • contribs) 12:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy Keep: It smoothly passes NPOL, as he is a “Major political figure who has received significant press coverage.” And passes GNG at the speed of light. And the bio does not rest entirely on 1E. He received sufficient coverage for the July uprising and his previous speeches, which increased after he announced his candidacy for the election. And the article is not entirely written on this (assassination) event, in fact, this event is only covered in the “Assassination” section. No other section covers it. And the tone can easily be fixed. I don’t see a reason to delete this article. Raihanur (talk) 12:42, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• WP:SNOW keep. If anyone thinks the article should be moved, then they should start a WP:RM discussion on the talk page once this AFD is closed. Sugar Tax (talk) 12:46, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep: As you mentioned, while it does not meet WP:NPOL, it does satisfy WP:GNG, and it includes details from both before and after his death. Although these were created after his passing, the posthumous reactions have made the subject notable. Sàádî (talk) 12:57, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]