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:Yes, my editing interests include organizations related to Russia. How is that relevant or notable? Press releases, social media links and unverifiable citations aren’t helpful. Also, {{tq|AllatRa has been very aggressive about thwarting efforts to document its influence work in the United States.}} – can you please provide a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for this? [[User:Deriannt|Deriannt]] ([[User talk:Deriannt|talk]]) 18:35, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

:Yes, my editing interests include organizations related to Russia. How is that relevant or notable? Press releases, social media links and unverifiable citations aren’t helpful. Also, {{tq|AllatRa has been very aggressive about thwarting efforts to document its influence work in the United States.}} – can you please provide a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for this? [[User:Deriannt|Deriannt]] ([[User talk:Deriannt|talk]]) 18:35, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you for your prompt reply, @[[User:Deriannt|Deriannt]]. I noticed that the article was moved from main-space to draft-space without accompanying explanation on the talk page or in the edit summary. According to Wikipedia:Tagging pages for problems, adding tags (or moving pages) without sufficient explanation on the article’s talk page can be considered drive-by tagging, which is discouraged.

::Could you please outline your specific concerns regarding the article in a structured way (for example: issues with sourcing, neutrality, undue weight, etc.)? That will enable the editorial team to focus on improving the article accordingly.

::Let’s keep the discussion focused on improving the article rather than debating the organisation itself. [[User:Salimfadhley|Salimfadhley]] ([[User talk:Salimfadhley|talk]]) 18:59, 19 November 2025 (UTC)


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Due to their outsized presence online, Allatra tends to show up everywhere they’re mentioned, flooding comment sections, mass reporting posts, etc. Sometimes it takes them a month or two before they find something written about them, but they’re highly likely to show up here at some point. This article should be prepared to lock edits if needed. I have a saved copy of the article just in case. Time4Tinfoil (talk) 12:05, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How exactly do you have the article saved? In a cloud service like Google cloud?
I’ll be interested in creating a backup article in case for the same reason LeBronism (talk) 04:52, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@LeBronism Right now I have the whole page saved in a text document. I could put it on cloud storage too. Time4Tinfoil (talk) 20:22, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah having the article saved in two separate locations is a good move.

I’m going to to just save it in my notes app and do the GFS backup rotation. I’ll probably use a cloud service like proton or Google.

if these people will do what you said they will do, and based off the article I read, I think it would be wise to make backups for recoveries, and prepare for vandalism.

I also do think it would be worth documenting their vandalism attempts so be added onto the wiki.

For anyone else reading I would recommend to backup the article as well if you are interested. LeBronism (talk) 03:06, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  1. No one has been paid to create or update this article. Please be more specific about any such concerns.
  2. The group is notable because of its rapid expansion, outsized geopolitical influence, and reliance on entryism to achieve influence. It has been banned in both Russia and Ukraine, but is rapidly expanding in the United States. Please be specific about any “issues, ideas, or controversies” which are given undue weight.
  3. Please be specific about any individual sources which are in question. Overall, the article is extremely well-sourced, but obviously can always be improved.

As LeBronism noted, AllatRa has been very aggressive about thwarting efforts to document its influence work in the United States. Obviously it is important for this English language page to be an accurate and fair resource.

Please return the page to main status and out of Draft as quickly as possible. Thanks.

Update: It also seems notable that Deriannt‘s edit history seems to be heavily focused on articles about organizations attached to Russia.

Noospherix (talk) 16:54, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, my editing interests include organizations related to Russia. How is that relevant or notable? Press releases, social media links and unverifiable citations aren’t helpful. Also, AllatRa has been very aggressive about thwarting efforts to document its influence work in the United States. – can you please provide a reliable source for this? Deriannt (talk) 18:35, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your prompt reply, @Deriannt. I noticed that the article was moved from main-space to draft-space without accompanying explanation on the talk page or in the edit summary. According to Wikipedia:Tagging pages for problems, adding tags (or moving pages) without sufficient explanation on the article’s talk page can be considered drive-by tagging, which is discouraged.
Could you please outline your specific concerns regarding the article in a structured way (for example: issues with sourcing, neutrality, undue weight, etc.)? That will enable the editorial team to focus on improving the article accordingly.
Let’s keep the discussion focused on improving the article rather than debating the organisation itself. Salimfadhley (talk) 18:59, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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