Talk:Catherine Connolly: Difference between revisions

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Although Gaeilgeoir might be a term commonly understood in Hiberno-English, given the likely international interest in Connolly as a presidential candidate, I’d suggest Irish speaker as plainer language. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 06:20, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English language Wikipedia. We don’t put other article subject’s languages in that language. We use German speaker, Mandarin speaker, Swahili speaker etc. There is no reason on the English language Wikipedia for Irish to be excepted with a term the vast majority of native English speakers would never have heard of. Canterbury Tail talk 21:06, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well this is different because the term in question is widely used by English speakers. StairySky (talk) 12:32, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide references that this is the common name in English for an Irish speaker and not the simple and completely universally known “Irish speaker”. I can assure you that the majority of the English speaking world is not aware of the term. Even in Northern Ireland it’s not particularly used by the English speaking population, and definitely not elsewhere outside Ireland itself. The common English language term for Irish speaker is quite blatantly Irish speaker. And this is the English language Wikipedia, not the Irish language Wikipedia. Even Wikipedia’s articles use Irish speaker, and Gaeilgeoir is only a redirect (and in fact its usage in this article is a violation of MOS:EASTEREGG as the target article is not what a reader would expect.) Canterbury Tail talk 13:42, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you do a google search you can see it’s in use in e.g., news media. StairySky (talk) 01:02, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Google searches are not a reliable source. Additionally there’s a huge difference between used in a minor local sense, and the most common term in English for it. We go by the most common term in English. Canterbury Tail talk 15:53, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do think she is an Irish speaker (or if that means Gaeilgeoir) and is on the List of Irish-speaking people, and she was chair of the “Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands” which sounds like something you to be very much into the Irish language for? Aszx5000 (talk) 16:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No one is questioning if she speaks Irish or not. Canterbury Tail talk 17:01, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Google searching indicates a preference for “Irish speaker” over “Gaeilgeoir“. Considering the audience also, I feel Irish speaker is more appropriate. Lf8u2 (talk) 01:49, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would imagine 99 out of 100 English-speaking Irish people would be familiar with the term gaeilgeoir. Despite it being only used by 4 million people it still makes it a valid Hiberno-English term in the same way many people would be familiar with the term cul-de-sac or restaurant (French language terms). The term gaeilgeoir doesn’t actually mean “Irish speaker” however, it actually means something slightly broader, an enthusiast and someone who promotes the use of the language and culture more broadly. It can often be used a pejorative term as well. In this instance I feel Irish speaker is maybe more accurate as she does not specifically seem to fit the definition of a “gaeilgeoir”. Financefactz (talk) 17:25, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can’t find a single source for the date nor the year that stands up to WP:BLP.

Only noticed because I saw her in an interview (“How to Gael” on Tiktok) state her astrological sign is Scorpio, which would contradict the date of birth given here. Looking for sources I can’t find anything firm on year or date. Detachedspork (talk) 14:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, unless a source can be provided it should be removed from a BLP. Canterbury Tail talk 14:25, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that Humphreys has conceded defeat, and that Connolly is widely expected to win based on the figures that have been released so far, but is it appropriate to say that she is president-elect before the count is finalised and a winner is formally declared? StellaAquila (talk) 14:56, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is not appropriate to say president-elect at all. This is an American thing, there is such concept in Ireland. Spleodrach (talk) 16:29, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In an interview (see https://gript.ie/connolly-up-to-individual-to-decide-how-many-genders/), Catherine said:

“I’m a woman, and I’m proud of it. It’s taken me a long time to accept […]”

I don’t know if this means she once identified otherwise, but this confirms that she at least now identifies as she/her. 49.186.236.154 (talk) 04:38, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]