A comparison between the Espero and a Ascona C, on a car lift in 1990, would spare us from this confusion… [[User:Victorgomes|Victorgomes]] ([[User talk:Victorgomes|talk]]) 15:35, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
A comparison between the Espero and a Ascona C, on a car lift in 1990, would spare us from this confusion… [[User:Victorgomes|Victorgomes]] ([[User talk:Victorgomes|talk]]) 15:35, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
:I came to the article with full intent of reverting you (because I have heard the Espero referred to as a J-car thousands of times) but you make a good case. When I get a moment I will double check your references and whatever else I can find, but it sounds true to me and explains some of the earlier contradictions on this page. Thanks, <span style=”background:#ff0000;font-family:Times New Roman;”>[[User:Mr.choppers|<span style=”color:#FDEE00;”>”’ Mr.choppers | ”'</span>]][[User talk:Mr.choppers|<span style=”color:#FDEE00;”>✎ </span>]]</span> 16:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
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In what way is the Espero related to the Passat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.6.144.251 (talk) 14:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
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Why are the UK, The Netherlands, Spain and Australia mentioned in the overview of where it was produced despite the car not being produced in any of these countries? Shouldn’t it be moved to the main article? Barleria (talk) 23:39, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Barleria: Are you referring to the sections regarding the car as sold in those markets? Maybe that could be made clearer, but I am also not sure what your question is. Thanks, Mr.choppers | ✎ 23:57, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@Mr.choppers: Sorry for being unclear, you’re right, I’m referring specifically to the part reading: 1995-1997 (UK, The Netherlands, Spain, Australia). Doesn’t this imply that the Espero was assembled in those countries rather than it just being the years it was marketed there? I feel like that might cause confusion at first before reading the rest of the page, or if someone just takes a quick look without going
through everything. Barleria (talk) 00:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
This article has many inconsistencies regarding to the term production. “Production” means “assembly or fabrication”. In the article, the term is being used to refer to import from overseas. Therefore, it must be clear that this car was never produced in Brazil or Iran, for instance. The Esperos sold in these country were all imported from South Korea.
Also, the Social Culture and Design quirks subsection does not present any relevant information to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victorgomes (talk • contribs) 23:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
One of the biggest misconceptions about the Espero is the platform that originated it. Western media always related the Espero to the Opel Ascona (J-car) platform, although it’s actually based on the Opel Kadett E ( T-car fwd) platform. I’ve corrected this mistake on this page with sources from Korean media and with sources with pictures that illustrates the differences and similarities between the Espero, the Ascona and the Kadett.
So let’s clarify terms for the beginning:
I’ve read on this article, before my revision, that “the Espero was derived from the J-car Platform, but the chassis was similar to the T-car platform”. Since the Espero is a unibody vehicle, the chassis is integrated to the platform. So the terms cannot be treated as different things.
From the wiki page car platform:
“A basic definition of a platform in cars, from a technical point of view, includes underbody and suspensions (with axles) — where the underbody is made of the front floor, rear floor, engine compartment, and frame (reinforcement of underbody)”
With this information in mind, one can look at the pictures provided on the reference number 8 on the Espero article, and compare how the structural components are not the same between J-Car and T-Car platforms. Floorpan, firewall, frame rails and strut towers are not the same between J-Car and T-car platforms, so these cannot be treated as the same platform.
A bit of logic can also be used to figure out why the Espero never had the J-car Platform:
Daewoo, at the time of the Espero development, never had access to the J-car Platform. It would be very expensive to cast and stamp new parts when you could use those from the Le Mans/Kadett E.
So why this misconception happened in first place?
We can only theorize, but at the time of the Espero development, Daewoo referred to it as the “J-car”. At the same time, the Daewoo Prince was being referred as the “S-car”. It was an internal designation. On top of that, Espero VIN numbers started with “KLAJ”, where the “J” identified the project code, just like on the General Motors J-cars.
A comparison between the Espero and a Ascona C, on a car lift in 1990, would spare us from this confusion… Victorgomes (talk) 15:35, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- I came to the article with full intent of reverting you (because I have heard the Espero referred to as a J-car thousands of times) but you make a good case. When I get a moment I will double check your references and whatever else I can find, but it sounds true to me and explains some of the earlier contradictions on this page. Thanks, Mr.choppers | ✎ 16:26, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
