Talk:Greater Anglia (2025): Difference between revisions

Based on what has happened when previous UK train operating companies have been nationalised, when this operator goes live this article will become the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. It has previously been established that the incumbent operator is the primary topic, e.g. when Northern Trains, ScotRail, Southeastern, TransPennine Express and Transport for Wales Rail were nationalised, with the new operator becoming the primary topic with the outgoing operator’s article moved.

Suggest that just before the handover, a WP:RM be initiated to move Greater Anglia to Greater Anglia (2012–2025) and in to turn move this article to Greater Anglia. Naleork (talk) 22:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some have been questioning as to whether the legal entity that underpins the new Greater Anglia will be GA Trains Limited.

DFT OLR Limited 9 (now GA Trains Limited) was one of a bunch, DFT OLR1 Limited to DFR OLR14 Limited that were set up as a contingency should there have been a need to nationalise any TOC. These were then renamed to reflect the names of the contracts they will take over. Two, DFT OLR5 Limited (now South Western Railway Limited) and DFT OLR7 Limited, (now C2C Rail Limited), are the entities that now underpin the last two operators taken over by DFT Operator.

GA Trains Limited has been actively procuring, in the last week awarding an IT contract and publishing a tender notice for maintenance of the Class 720, 745 and 755 fleets. All the evidence leaves no doubt that GA Trains Limited is going to be the legal entity that operates the Greater Anglia services come 12 October. Naleork (talk) 23:07, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

– When the new government owned Greater Anglia supersedes the Transport UK / Mitsui owned Greater Anglia on 12 October it will become the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Precedent when a privately operated UK train operator is nationalised with the trading name retained, has been for the outgoing operator article to be renamed to allow the incoming operator article to take the article title. Examples in recent years are:

Note to closing administrator: If the consensus is to move, should only be actioned after the handover occurs on 12 October 2025. Naleork (talk) 23:07, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support obvious and non-controversial. —10mmsocket (talk) 08:19, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I would note that the pre-2021 Southeastern franchise was intially known as Southeastern (train operating company 2006–2021) before being moved to London & South Eastern Railway a few months ago. Its also odd that Govia Thameslink Railway is changing its name to Thameslink Southern Great Northern like LNER did from VTEC while GA, c2c, SWR, TPE, and TfW didn’t. I should note that the rename discussion should have taken within a week of the handover as when the discussion closes, GA would’ve been in the public hands by then. Also, any user can close an RM, not just admins. —JuniperChill (talk) 12:17, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Support after handover per all of the above. JacobTheRox^{(talk | contributions)} 22:01, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, although I’d prefer moving the former Greater Anglia to Transport UK East Anglia per WP:NATURAL, like what we did with London & South Eastern Railway. 162 etc. (talk) 00:51, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]