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::@[[User:Pierce spacem|Pierce spacem]] No, it wasn’t an autonomous region. During the [[German revolution of 1918–1919|German revolution]], all of the German states went through a phase that didn’t vary much from state to state: a short period with a more or less revolutionary government (see [[German workers’ and soldiers’ councils 1918–1919|German workers’ and soldiers’ councils]]) during which the ruling monarch (dukes, princes) abdicated; free elections were held for a constituent assembly; the state adopted a republican constitution and then settled in as a constituent state of the Weimar Republic without ever having been autonomous. The difference with Reuss and the other Thuringian states was only that after the above process, they combined in 1920 to form the new state of Thuringia because they were such a geographical hodge-podge. There was no period during which they were autonomous or wanted to be.

::@[[User:Pierce spacem|Pierce spacem]] No, it wasn’t an autonomous region. During the [[German revolution of 1918–1919|German revolution]], all of the German states went through a phase that didn’t vary much from state to state: a short period with a more or less revolutionary government (see [[German workers’ and soldiers’ councils 1918–1919|German workers’ and soldiers’ councils]]) during which the ruling monarch (dukes, princes) abdicated; free elections were held for a constituent assembly; the state adopted a republican constitution and then settled in as a constituent state of the Weimar Republic without ever having been autonomous. The difference with Reuss and the other Thuringian states was only that after the above process, they combined in 1920 to form the new state of Thuringia because they were such a geographical hodge-podge. There was no period during which they were autonomous or wanted to be.

::The exceptions to the above were e.g. the Bavarian Soviet Republic and Bremen Soviet Republic. I hope that helps clarify? [[User:GHStPaulMN|GHStPaulMN]] ([[User talk:GHStPaulMN|talk]]) 11:26, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

::The exceptions to the above were e.g. the Bavarian Soviet Republic and Bremen Soviet Republic. I hope that helps clarify? [[User:GHStPaulMN|GHStPaulMN]] ([[User talk:GHStPaulMN|talk]]) 11:26, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:::But was it not a state of the Weimar Republic, a federal republic, where the constituent states have higher autonomy? [[User:Pierce spacem|Pierce spacem]] ([[User talk:Pierce spacem|talk]]) 12:34, 21 October 2025 (UTC)


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Sorry for asking, but is it possible that someone could help me with adding in descriptions for the countries Thanks, Pierce spacem (talk) 18:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is wild that you did most of this by yourself, im glad to help brother! JaxsonR (talk) 23:35, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Short Lived States and Dependencies –> List of Short lived states and dependencies JaxsonR (talk) 23:25, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List

JaxsonR (talk) 20:11, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

also the Democratic Republic of Bakassi (2 instances of declaration, in 2006 and 2008) JaxsonR (talk) 20:18, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kronstadt rebellion JaxsonR (talk) 18:37, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
wrong republic of benin, I meant: Republic of Benin JaxsonR (talk) 18:38, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Republic of Benin is already on the list. For a more comprehensive list view my sandbox Pierce spacem (talk) 07:00, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
would it be okay if i add to the list? JaxsonR (talk) 17:56, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yeah Pierce spacem (talk) 09:37, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
just one thing. When adding the descriptions for new countries please please don’t copy and paste from the article. It can get quite repetitive. If you want you can just put them in and I’ll just add the descriptions. Pierce spacem (talk) 09:41, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
okay 🙂 JaxsonR (talk) 00:57, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
quick question, would the occupation zones or Iraq count? such as the Polish zone in Iraq? JaxsonR (talk) 07:08, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. Others that wouldn’t count would be rebel groups who controlled territory for a short time Pierce spacem (talk) 08:29, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Someone has removed CHOP for being a “self-declared State” even though that is one of the criteria for this page, could you please reinstate this. JaxsonR (talk) 19:56, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dn9ahx (talk) 16:24, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

will do JaxsonR (talk) 18:33, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pierce spacem Hi, I’m in the process of rewriting the articles on the German states that joined to form Thuringia in 1920 (see yesterday’s update to People’s State of Reuss). Reuss was simply the region’s transformation from a member state of the German Empire to one of the Weimar Republic in exactly the same way as every other state in the German Empire. If Reuss is listed, so should Baden, Anhalt, Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach etc. etc. etc. Perhaps the confusion comes from “People’s State” in Reuss’ name? It’s the usual translation of ‘Volksstaat’ and is only a minor variation of ‘Freistaat’ (Free State) that many of the other German states chose when they became part of the Weimar Republic. (Hesse was also a People’s State in Weimar.) As I said in the edit summary when I deleted Reuss, it had no pretensions to sovereignty. Please look at the People’s State of Reuss article, plus States of the Weimar Republic and take Reuss back out again. Thanks much. GHStPaulMN (talk) 11:38, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does it not constitute as an autonomous region? I honestly don’t know. Pierce spacem (talk) 07:40, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pierce spacem No, it wasn’t an autonomous region. During the German revolution, all of the German states went through a phase that didn’t vary much from state to state: a short period with a more or less revolutionary government (see German workers’ and soldiers’ councils) during which the ruling monarch (dukes, princes) abdicated; free elections were held for a constituent assembly; the state adopted a republican constitution and then settled in as a constituent state of the Weimar Republic without ever having been autonomous. The difference with Reuss and the other Thuringian states was only that after the above process, they combined in 1920 to form the new state of Thuringia because they were such a geographical hodge-podge. There was no period during which they were autonomous or wanted to be.
The exceptions to the above were e.g. the Bavarian Soviet Republic and Bremen Soviet Republic. I hope that helps clarify? GHStPaulMN (talk) 11:26, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But was it not a state of the Weimar Republic, a federal republic, where the constituent states have higher autonomy? Pierce spacem (talk) 12:34, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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