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What does this mean? For now, it means I can’t be bothered to work on articles or drafts. I’m still going to be hammering the revert button, and dishing out warning templates, whenever I spot vandals, bigots and trolls, so please don’t be thinking that you’ve “won” anything there! But if Wikipedia can’t expend a little effort to support some of its best editors then why should I be expending more than very minimal effort for Wikipedia? –[[User:DanielRigal|DanielRigal]] ([[User talk:DanielRigal#top|talk]]) 23:46, 18 October 2025 (UTC) |
What does this mean? For now, it means I can’t be bothered to work on articles or drafts. I’m still going to be hammering the revert button, and dishing out warning templates, whenever I spot vandals, bigots and trolls, so please don’t be thinking that you’ve “won” anything there! But if Wikipedia can’t expend a little effort to support some of its best editors then why should I be expending more than very minimal effort for Wikipedia? –[[User:DanielRigal|DanielRigal]] ([[User talk:DanielRigal#top|talk]]) 23:46, 18 October 2025 (UTC) |
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:What did you expect? For Arbcom to just ban your opponents and commend your allies? Raladic had to work incredibly hard (mostly ”during the case!”) to get banned, and YFNS’s approach to sourcing and Wikipedia guidelines and policies, especially BLP, FRINGE and MEDRS, has been rather, um, bespoke, even after her gensex tban. So perhaps you’re not looking at this impartially. Just, y’know, throwing that out there. |
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:Pretty sure you’re not ‘getting away with it’ just because you’re a cis man (I was under the impression that at least one of the parties is a cis man, right?). But honestly, you’re probably lucky not to have been made a party to the case yourself. |
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:Finally, there’s a couple of userboxes on my userpage that express frustration with Wikipedia. You’re very welcome to copy and paste them. 🙂 |
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:All the best, and I actually hope you don’t retire over this. [[User:Tewdar|<span style=”font-family:”sans-serif”;color:#fcaf17;background-color:#000000;”><b> Tewdar </b></span>]] 09:15, 19 October 2025 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 10:41, 19 October 2025
CONSIDERING RETIREMENT
DanielRigal is considering retirement, although nothing is set in stone…
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I wasn’t sure whether to upgrade my “User frustrated” template to “User contempt”, “Discouraged” or “Considering retirement”. “Discouraged” makes it sound like I need cheering up, which I don’t, and “User contempt” makes it sound like it is a me problem and not a Wikipedia problem. And, yes, I am genuinely considering retiring from the project.
I’m still waiting to see if anything can be saved from the shameful handling of the arbitration case on Transgender healthcare and people. This much needed case has been bothsidesed and the guilty and the innocent are being punished pretty much equally. The editor who brought the case is being straight-up banned instead of thanked for her heroic efforts. Yeah, shooting the messenger along with a few of the worst troublemakers might quieten things down for a little bit, until the next batch of faux civil transphobes get their feet under the desk anyway, but the collateral damage is truly painful to behold. No good deed goes unpunished but this is taking it to a ludicrous degree.
I feel that Wikipedia has failed to defend women and LGBT editors and that it has actively participated in forcing some good editors out rather than support them. I have to ask myself whether I am OK with the fact that I’m not getting trouble on here largely because I am a cisgender man? That really eats away at me. It just doesn’t feel moral for me to be participating on that basis.
What does this mean? For now, it means I can’t be bothered to work on articles or drafts. I’m still going to be hammering the revert button, and dishing out warning templates, whenever I spot vandals, bigots and trolls, so please don’t be thinking that you’ve “won” anything there! But if Wikipedia can’t expend a little effort to support some of its best editors then why should I be expending more than very minimal effort for Wikipedia? —DanielRigal (talk) 23:46, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
