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Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 23:49, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I put information and cited sources what else do you want? Hilario21 (talk) 21:35, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am providing official data because it reverts the edition??? Hilario21 (talk) 23:51, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:CONTEXTMATTERS which says that sources should be assessed for accuracy rather than taken at face value. The problem with your https://www.concierto.cl source is that it’s impossible for the album to have 3 million more units sold from August 2022 to August 2025. That many albums sold is considered a hit record by many observers, but the record came out 20 years earlier, and the sales have tapered off significantly. It has not been promoted in any unusual way in the last three years. Also, your concert website source is basically a blog platform, not reliable. Binksternet (talk) 02:36, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a consensus that initial sales are marked by Billboard. In fact, Billboard is only in the USA and could not publish exact figures. If Parlophone had published it, there would be no doubt. There are many sites that report that A Rush Of Blood To The Head sold more than 20 million copies. Hilario21 (talk) 03:03, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not convinced, and there are other people like me interested in making that page be as accurate as possible. You would have to convince them as well, to create a new consensus. You should start a discussion at Talk:A Rush of Blood to the Head or Talk:List of best-selling albums of the 21st century.

RIAA says the album is certified for 4 million units in the US.[1] Chartmasters says the album sold almost 14 million worldwide in straight album sales.[2] (Ignore their quirky and unique EAS method of counting.) Chartdata.org says the album sold 5 million in the US.[3] Bestsellingalbums.org says the album sold 11.6 million worldwide.[4] BPI says the album is certified 10× Platinum which means 3 million units were sold in the UK. Their chart says the album sells about 300,000 units every five years at this point. There’s no way it would jump up to 20 million all of a sudden. Binksternet (talk) 04:07, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ok I’ll start a new conversation, I absolutely want the same for this page, to prove the veracity of the data about the album, there are many other websites that claim that A Rush Of Blood To The Head by Coldplay had already surpassed 20 million copies in 2022, there are even sites that refute the billboard publication, saying that they are only estimates but are not real data since the album has not been updated for a long time, those certifications that you name have not been updated since 2012, Parlophone published that until 2021 Coldplay had sold more than 160 million pure albums, it is impossible that A Rush Of Blood To The Head has sold only 17 million copies being one of their best-selling albums Hilario21 (talk) 20:15, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Coldplay. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users’ edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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It is not my intention to enter into an editing war. The article says albums, not records. I think the editor of the publication knows more than us, that’s why he wrote albums. If he hadn’t mentioned records, it seems impartial and not serious to me to write things that are not in the article. Hilario21 (talk) 04:18, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]