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Hi, just a courtesy note to say that Aeroroutes and its predecessor, Routes Online, are considered unreliable per the discussion at [[WP:AEROROUTES]]. Also please ignore the edit summary in my rv – I mistook you for someone else, I haven’t informed you of this before 🙂 [[User talk:Danners430|Danners430]] [[Special:Contributions/Danners430|tweaks made]] 13:47, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

:so what source would you recommend if aeroroutes isn’t considered independent anymore & the official statements from the company aren’t as well, thanks [[User:Hkgspotter|Hkgspotter]] ([[User talk:Hkgspotter#top|talk]]) 15:58, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hello, I’m The Banner. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Hong Kong International Airport have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Removal of valid sources The Banner talk 13:33, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Hong Kong International Airport, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Danners430 (talk) 12:31, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Hong Kong International Airport, you may be blocked from editing. Danners430 (talk) 16:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By giving a source in the edit summary, for example. The Banner talk 16:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to remove maintenance templates without resolving the problem that the template refers to, as you did at Hong Kong International Airport, you may be blocked from editing. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 17:54, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

well why not add sources for all of the routes then. I can see hundreds of routes without sources, could you actually assist in adding new sources instead of reversing edits, thanks Hkgspotter (talk) 16:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do not have the same access to sources as others do, otherwise I would. I see plenty of unsourced routes, agreed – perhaps it’s time to tag them so that if sources aren’t provided, they can be removed.

Sources are not optional, they are mandatory. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 16:45, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

why not remove the whole page then lol Hkgspotter (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Because most of the page is sourced – but some of the routes aren’t. Anyone could legitimately remove the unsourced routes, but people generally place CN tags on the old, unsourced content to encourage the addition of sources. Then after some time, if sources aren’t added, then the content is removed. But new content simply shouldn’t be added unless there’s a source. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 17:19, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

well, some of the routes have been running for older than you and me, for example Cathay Pacific which was formed in the 1940s, with its hub in Hong Kong, have run Manila and San Fransisco routes basiclly since the inception of modern jet aircraft. We commonly source our new routes from websites like Aeroroutes and news outlets, but it would be nearly impossible to see them cover these boring old routes that have run for more than half a century, making sourcing very difficult. It will also be extremely redundant and be a tough read for the reader. The page already has 100+ sources and it would be a logistical nightmare to maintain the site as well. Hkgspotter (talk) 14:45, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great. It still needs sourcing. Sorry, but nothing changes there. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 20:12, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will be bringing this issue to the mods so we can have a third opinion regarding the whole issue. Then we can stop arguing and start editing. Thanks Hkgspotter (talk) 03:51, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is meant to be a source where information is easily obtained and read by laymen, not an academic journal that requires intensive sourcing. Hkgspotter (talk) 03:36, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove maintenance templates from Wikipedia articles without resolving the problem that the template refers to, as you did at Hong Kong International Airport. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 06:29, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

block me then Hkgspotter (talk) 12:51, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just a courtesy note to say that Aeroroutes and its predecessor, Routes Online, are considered unreliable per the discussion at WP:AEROROUTES. Also please ignore the edit summary in my rv – I mistook you for someone else, I haven’t informed you of this before 🙂 Danners430 _{tweaks made} 13:47, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

so what source would you recommend if aeroroutes isn’t considered independent anymore & the official statements from the company aren’t as well, thanks Hkgspotter (talk) 15:58, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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