:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Oct|Happy 50th birthday, Alain Altinoglu!)]] – I let the video begin with a closeup of the octobass 😉 [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:44, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Oct|Happy 50th birthday, Alain Altinoglu!)]] – I let the video begin with a closeup of the octobass 😉 [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:44, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
:: I am proud to have brought two performing women to the main page. Sadly, death kept both from performing more, one sooner, the other much later. If you have little time just listen to the one who died young and see if it touches you (in [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#12 Oct|today’s story]], – I don’t want to sprinkle youtube links outside my user pages). –[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:25, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
:: I am proud to have brought two performing women to the main page. Sadly, death kept both from performing more, one sooner, the other much later. If you have little time just listen to the one who died young and see if it touches you (in [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#12 Oct|today’s story]], – I don’t want to sprinkle youtube links outside my user pages). –[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:25, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
*Dear Iryhor,
I am sorry but I have been sick (mentally tired) and unwell for the past 3-4 months. But from Dobrev and Baud’s 1995 paper and reconstruction of the South Saqqara Stone [https://web.archive.org/web/20220618183111/https://www.ifao.egnet.net/bifao/95/3/ Here] in French, they assign 11-13 years to Merenre I. This makes quite reasonable sense as it would make Merenre the father of Pepi II (who came to the throne at age 6). The South Saqqara Stone–in their view indicates–I suppose a biannual count for Merenre and it is a more contemporary document presumably made under Pepi II?
On another matter, Menkauhor ruled a minimum of 8 years and more likely 9 years from this 2025 paper 15 of this academia.edu article which is free for PDF download at Cambridge University Press: https://www.academia.edu/papers/261508549?email_work_card=thumbnail I made an [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Menkauhor_Kaiu&diff=prev&oldid=1317497840 Edit here] Menkauhor has a Year of the 7th count, Year after the 7th count as well as a Year after the 1st count attested. That makes…9 years which is quite inline with Manetho’s 8 years. You can save the PDF of the article if you wish. as for its speculation that Djedkare Isesi ruled less than 30 years, I can’t agree here because there are likely gaps in the attested Year dates for Djedkare and the wikipedia figure of 33-44 years is more realistic than the Turin Canon’s 28 years–written 1,000 years later–since this ruler is one of the best attested kings of the 5th dynasty. The Turin Canon gives Unas 30 years–and that is OK for wikipedia’s ‘traditional reign figure for him’–but I think most Egyptologists think Unas ruled between 14 to 20 years….which you (I think) correctly note for Unas’ English wikipedia article.
The Turin Canon is figure’s are not always reliable since they were written 1,000 years after the Old Kingdom. The Turin Canon gives Sneferu 24 years but he likely ruled closer to 35 years to be able to build 3 pyramids, the Meidum Pyramid, Bent Pyramid and Red Pyramid. The only contemporary Old Kingdom documents we have are the Palermo Stone which stop in the middle of Neferirkare Kakai’s reign and the badly erased but still partly readable South Saqqara Stone which even preserves the titulary of the usurper Userkare and the end of Pepi I and start of Merenre I’s reign. Somehow, I think you have an opinion of the South Saqqara Stone but while I have a French last name, I was born in Malaysia where English and Malay/Indonesian was the main languages there. I never learned French as Malaysia was a former British colony. I have to sign off now as I am tired. Best and Congratulations on your TFA for Merenre I. Feel free to post a reply on Merenre I or Menkauhor or Djedkare and feel free to download that PDF paper, –[[User:Leoboudv|Leoboudv]] ([[User talk:Leoboudv|talk]]) 00:17, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
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Congratulations! —Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt Really this is because of you: your precious anniversary message was important and spurred me into completing this article. So thank you ! Iry-Hor (talk) 06:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed that in 2012 you added a line of text to the article for the pharaoh Djet, saying the following:
“From a calendar entry, Djer is known to have died on 7 Peret III while Djet began his reign on 22 Peret IV. The reason for the 45 days of interregnum is unknown.”
I just wanted to know, what is the calendar entry that you were referencing here? The Palermo Stone lists the date of Hor-Aha’s death (six months and seven days left in the year), and the start of Djet’s reign (4 months and 13 days into the next year), but I don’t see a mention of Djer on the stone.
Thanks, and have a good day!
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- AzaiStats So for the Egyptologist Toby Wilkinson the claim pertains in fact to Djer’s accession to the throne (not Djet) as Wilkinson indicates in “Royal Annals of Ancient Egypt. The Palermo Stone and its Associated Fragments”, p. 92 (I have the pdf of the book if you want). I apologize for not citing the reference in 2012. That said it is unlikely (though not impossible!) that I confused Djer and Djet back then. More likely there is another source that attributes fragment PS (Palermo Stone) r.II.3 to Djet and not to Djer, explaining what I wrote. Wilkison’s attribution of PS r.II.3 to Djer is justified before p. 92 in his book but possibly earlier Egypotlogists attributed it to Djet. Here is what Wilkinson says (at this point he already assumes that the fragment belongs to Djer) : “The signs at the top of the compartment indicate that Djer came to the throne when there were only four months and thirteen days left of the civil year. (Note that earlier commentators (e.g. Meyer in Sethe 1903: 73) had assumed that the enumeration of months and days at the beginning of a reign gave the date of accession, rather than the amount of the civil year left when the new king came to the throne.) Both Jequier (1906a) and Read (1914-15) noted early on that the numbers of months and days recorded in PS r.II.2 and r.11.3 do not add up to a whole year. The reign of the first king evidently came to an end after only 6 months and 7 days had elapsed of the civil year. Hence, the first compartment of the second king should record the remaining 5 months and 28 days; but, instead, the annals give only 4 months and 13 days. In other words, 1 month and 15 days are missing. Jequier (1906a: 60-2) explained the discrepancy by suggesting that the new king only gained full power after the completion of his formal accession/coronation ceremonies. Hence, the ‘missing’ 45 days represented an interregnum before the new king legally assumed office. An alternative explanation is that the discrepancy represents nothing more than a scribal error or an error in the records from which the annals were compiled.” I hope this helps. I have plenty other resources now if you have more questions on Djer or are looking for sources.Iry-Hor (talk) 17:50, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed, another source that I’ve seen which translates the Palermo Stone claims that the stone pertains to the death of Hor-Aha and the rise of Djer. This is also complimented by the stone also saying that there was the “birth of two royal children of Lower Egypt”, almost certainly pertaining to Djet and Merneith (since Djet only has one (likely) known child, Adjib), and that there was a “Djet festival”, which likely pertained to the five or six year old child born. AzaiStats (talk) 18:16, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Indeed, another source that I’ve seen which translates the Palermo Stone claims that the stone pertains to the death of Hor-Aha and the rise of Djer. This is also complimented by the stone also saying that there was the “birth of two royal children of Lower Egypt”, almost certainly pertaining to Djet and Merneith (since Djet only has one (likely) known child, Adjib), and that there was a “Djet festival”, which likely pertained to the five or six year old child born. AzaiStats (talk) 18:16, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- AzaiStats So for the Egyptologist Toby Wilkinson the claim pertains in fact to Djer’s accession to the throne (not Djet) as Wilkinson indicates in “Royal Annals of Ancient Egypt. The Palermo Stone and its Associated Fragments”, p. 92 (I have the pdf of the book if you want). I apologize for not citing the reference in 2012. That said it is unlikely (though not impossible!) that I confused Djer and Djet back then. More likely there is another source that attributes fragment PS (Palermo Stone) r.II.3 to Djet and not to Djer, explaining what I wrote. Wilkison’s attribution of PS r.II.3 to Djer is justified before p. 92 in his book but possibly earlier Egypotlogists attributed it to Djet. Here is what Wilkinson says (at this point he already assumes that the fragment belongs to Djer) : “The signs at the top of the compartment indicate that Djer came to the throne when there were only four months and thirteen days left of the civil year. (Note that earlier commentators (e.g. Meyer in Sethe 1903: 73) had assumed that the enumeration of months and days at the beginning of a reign gave the date of accession, rather than the amount of the civil year left when the new king came to the throne.) Both Jequier (1906a) and Read (1914-15) noted early on that the numbers of months and days recorded in PS r.II.2 and r.11.3 do not add up to a whole year. The reign of the first king evidently came to an end after only 6 months and 7 days had elapsed of the civil year. Hence, the first compartment of the second king should record the remaining 5 months and 28 days; but, instead, the annals give only 4 months and 13 days. In other words, 1 month and 15 days are missing. Jequier (1906a: 60-2) explained the discrepancy by suggesting that the new king only gained full power after the completion of his formal accession/coronation ceremonies. Hence, the ‘missing’ 45 days represented an interregnum before the new king legally assumed office. An alternative explanation is that the discrepancy represents nothing more than a scribal error or an error in the records from which the annals were compiled.” I hope this helps. I have plenty other resources now if you have more questions on Djer or are looking for sources.Iry-Hor (talk) 17:50, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
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That sounds lovely, also about we said last month! – My story today is about a mezzo as a thinking person, DYK? (The nomination wasn’t by me, which probably helped to a short review.) – Look at the video if you have a few minutes. I never saw her on stage, but (in 2022) the last Carmen production at the Bastille Opéra that she was in, – see music. —Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks ! I should have guessed you were the one behind this DYK on an Opera singer. Great performance !Iry-Hor (talk) 07:04, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you 😉 – Happy birthday, Margaret Medlyn! (I found the article – not by me – when searching for someone whose birthday is today.) – I took a cat pic, presented by Rosiestep today. —Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:50, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Happy 50th birthday, Alain Altinoglu!) – I let the video begin with a closeup of the octobass 😉 Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:44, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- I am proud to have brought two performing women to the main page. Sadly, death kept both from performing more, one sooner, the other much later. If you have little time just listen to the one who died young and see if it touches you (in today’s story, – I don’t want to sprinkle youtube links outside my user pages). —Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
I am sorry but I have been sick (mentally tired) and unwell for the past 3-4 months. But from Dobrev and Baud’s 1995 paper and reconstruction of the South Saqqara Stone Here in French, they assign 11-13 years to Merenre I. This makes quite reasonable sense as it would make Merenre the father of Pepi II (who came to the throne at age 6). The South Saqqara Stone–in their view indicates–I suppose a biannual count for Merenre and it is a more contemporary document presumably made under Pepi II?
On another matter, Menkauhor ruled a minimum of 8 years and more likely 9 years from this 2025 paper 15 of this academia.edu article which is free for PDF download at Cambridge University Press: https://www.academia.edu/papers/261508549?email_work_card=thumbnail I made an Edit here Menkauhor has a Year of the 7th count, Year after the 7th count as well as a Year after the 1st count attested. That makes…9 years which is quite inline with Manetho’s 8 years. You can save the PDF of the article if you wish. as for its speculation that Djedkare Isesi ruled less than 30 years, I can’t agree here because there are likely gaps in the attested Year dates for Djedkare and the wikipedia figure of 33-44 years is more realistic than the Turin Canon’s 28 years–written 1,000 years later–since this ruler is one of the best attested kings of the 5th dynasty. The Turin Canon gives Unas 30 years–and that is OK for wikipedia’s ‘traditional reign figure for him’–but I think most Egyptologists think Unas ruled between 14 to 20 years….which you (I think) correctly note for Unas’ English wikipedia article.
The Turin Canon is figure’s are not always reliable since they were written 1,000 years after the Old Kingdom. The Turin Canon gives Sneferu 24 years but he likely ruled closer to 35 years to be able to build 3 pyramids, the Meidum Pyramid, Bent Pyramid and Red Pyramid. The only contemporary Old Kingdom documents we have are the Palermo Stone which stop in the middle of Neferirkare Kakai’s reign and the badly erased but still partly readable South Saqqara Stone which even preserves the titulary of the usurper Userkare and the end of Pepi I and start of Merenre I’s reign. Somehow, I think you have an opinion of the South Saqqara Stone but while I have a French last name, I was born in Malaysia where English and Malay/Indonesian was the main languages there. I never learned French as Malaysia was a former British colony. I have to sign off now as I am tired. Best and Congratulations on your TFA for Merenre I. Feel free to post a reply on Merenre I or Menkauhor or Djedkare and feel free to download that PDF paper, —Leoboudv (talk) 00:17, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
