User talk:Jace Aotearoa AU: Difference between revisions

Just a brief acknowledgement of the amazing work you have done on the University website. It’s very comprehensive and up to date. I am working on compiling documents relating to the history and will add those I can to the open access repository. they may augment your work – that said you haven’t missed much ! Best wishes. Stephen McVey University Librarian. 203.19.80.210 (talk) 06:48, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind message. The article is part of a personal project to create a standardised structure based on existing articles currently meeting Wikipedia’s good article criteria, but within an Australian context, that can eventually be re-adapted into the articles for all Australian and New Zealand-based universities (including, hopefully, where I’m currently studying). I’m around 90% complete with Notre Dame’s article and while it doesn’t yet meet the criteria, any documents you can publish into the repository will certainly help. Is there any chance you may be able to donate photographs to Wikimedia Commons? It doesn’t need to be fancy but I’m looking for some photographs of specific buildings (especially at the Broome and Sydney sites) and events but live a few hours away from the closest campus. It won’t affect whether the article can meet the criteria but it will certainly improve its quality. I’m hoping to submit it for a peer review by May followed by a GA-assessment once it is complete. Even if the article doesn’t end up meeting the criteria, it is based on existing GAs and has the potential to significantly improve a large number of articles about other universities with minimal effort. Jace Aotearoa AU (talk) 17:00, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks for your reply. I was saying to colleagues that there’s a lot you have included here that staff don’t know about the organisation. I have worked here since 1999 so do have a lot of history to draw on and as I say I am now looking to make available additional documentation which could be referenced. If there are any subjects you want more information about please reply or you can email me (it’s first name dot surname with the domain of the university). And I can definitely get you photos of buildings either because we have them on hand or I can get take them for you. Is there anything specific you want – do you have building names/numbers ? 203.19.80.210 (talk) 01:32, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. I have limited spare time available as I’m currently studying at a nearby university but I’ll be happy to email you some time next week when I get some free time. I would also recommend creating a Wikipedia account as you are using a shared university network which anyone can use. Please also refer to this guide. Thank you! Jace Aotearoa AU (talk) 01:46, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve sent an email with a list of possible photographs. Jace Aotearoa AU (talk) 02:08, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, just a minor fyi: editors do not have conflicts of interest with schools they attend. You would potentially have a conflict of interest if you were employed by the university, but even that’s probably pretty minor, or possibly even irrelevant… depending on the nature of your employment/what department you were employed in. — HTGS (talk) 21:02, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:EXTERNALREL, any “external relationship—personal, religious, political, academic, legal, or financial (including holding a cryptocurrency)—can trigger a COI”. Therefore, shouldn’t applying to study at the University of Otago (or my current university, UWA) be considered an academic COI? Jace Aotearoa AU (talk) 21:18, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haha fair enough, perhaps I should have couched my comment “in my opinion”, but you should read that section as having a pretty interpretable grey area… in my opinion. I certainly doubt you would ever be pulled up on it for normal editing of university pages. (Even including such potentially “promotional” edits as updating school rankings.)

I think of the student relationship (in most cases) as more akin to that of a consumer, and I think we would do ourselves a disservice by allowing good editors like you to think they would have a conflict with their (current, future, or past) schools to the degree it would dissuade you from normal editing. Like a good judge, I hope you can decide whether your relationship with either or any school is strong enough to make you unable to remain impartial in how you edit the encyclopaedia, but my goal here is just to make sure you don’t recuse yourself out too early. — HTGS (talk) 21:43, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I should add, if you were attending grad school, you may well develop a conflict of interest regarding your lab or department, just the same as you might develop a conflict of interest on the subject of some particular professor, no matter what level of study you are at (of course in most cases undergraduates don’t form such close relationships with their profs, but this isn’t universal). — HTGS (talk) 21:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I’m an undergrad but you seem pretty knowledgable about universities. Since it is obviously difficult and time-consuming for new editors to write whole articles about universities, I’m planning on starting an interactive “article builder” of sorts at WikiProject Education in Australia to spread the workload and streamline a way for new editors to write about universities (even outside of Oceania) with very little effort. While certainly informative, WP:UNIGUIDE can be overwhelming to implement for new editors who are only volunteering their spare time and skills don’t pass on and editors with those skills eventually retire. What also happens is that students often work hard expanding articles about their universities only to have notices put on their work or have their contribitions removed. What would be useful is a sort of “article builder” to make the skill-building process a lot easier. I had originally intended to re-purpose my B-class Notre Dame article above but have realised that re-using the same structure would lead to poorer quality outcomes and having formatting tailored specifically for each university would be more ideal and spread the workload across people more knowledgeable about their local area. I had previously written some articles about universities in cities that I have never visited and it did lead to poorer quality. I’m actually running a real life class for some friends here who are interested as a form of R&D. TLDR; I’m planning on retiring my account after I’m done writing about universities in Australia and New Zealand but since you seem pretty active here with nearly 14,000 edits, I can ping you once I start drafting the “article builder” if you’re interested on building, using or improving it. Jace Aotearoa AU (talk) 23:56, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You’re talking about editors creating new articles for universities? Are there many universities without articles still? A list might be helpful.

I don’t think I understand completely what you mean by an “article builder”, but I tend to think of writing on Wikipedia as an evolutionary process, guided by best practices, rather than one that benefits massively from article-building templates. Other resources would probably be a big help though, like advice on where to find quality sources. (I haven’t read UNIGUIDE, so I don’t know whether it includes that sort of thing.)

And I hope you don’t really retire; I understand when life takes priority, but the more good editors who hang around here, the better off we are. — HTGS (talk) 22:49, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The university article builder expander would be more of a helpful step-by-step instructions manual that anyone can use to expand existing articles so that they can meet good article criteria faster, be more comprehensive and take little effort and experience for new editors. Jace Aotearoa AU (talk) 13:47, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The primary goal would be to help editors save time. Jace Aotearoa AU (talk) 13:50, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]