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:== Additional note ==

:As a Wikipedia contributor, I am prepared to undertake the necessary improvements to bring this article up to current standards, incorporating these reliable sources and updating the information with proper citations. The goal is not simply to preserve the page, but to enhance its encyclopedic value through documented, verifiable information. [[User:Lisbet-Larsen|Lisbet-Larsen]] ([[User talk:Lisbet-Larsen#top|talk]]) 09:15, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, Meepmeepyeet, here is my answer about Jack Dupon, french band. I don’t know if you allready saw it ?

:== Arguments for keeping the Jack Dupon page ==

:As a Wikipedia contributor, I would like to provide factual elements to this discussion regarding the proposed deletion of the Jack Dupon page.

:=== 1. Wikipedia notability criteria clearly met ===

:The Jack Dupon page clearly meets the ”’notability criteria”’ established by Wikipedia for music groups:

:”’Substantial international media coverage:”’

:* ”’Exposé Magazine”’ (USA) – International reference publication for progressive rock

:* ”’Progressor.net”’ – Recognized specialized site in the progressive community

:* ”’Artists and Bands”’ (Italy) – European music publication

:* ”’Ahasverus”’ (France) – Specialized music webzine

:* ”’ProgArchives”’ – International reference database

:=== 2. Established professional recognition ===

:”’Renowned international festivals:”’

:* ”’Zappanale”’ (Germany) – Alongside Magma, George Duke, Alice Cooper

:* ”’FIMAV”’ (Canada) – Festival International de Musique Actuelle de Victoriaville

:* ”’ProgDay Festival”’ (USA) – Chapel Hill, North Carolina

:* ”’Rock In Opposition”’ (France) – Festival dedicated to the RIO movement

:”’Documented international tours:”’

:* United States (2010) – Organized by Transit Music Group

:* Canada (2015) – First Canadian tour

:* Balkans and Northern Europe (2011) – 8 countries, multiple cities

:* United Kingdom (2011) – Smugglers and Malcfest festivals

:=== 3. Sustained activity and longevity ===

:”’20 years of active career (2004-2024):”’

:* ”’8 studio albums”’ released

:* ”’Several live albums”’ and DVDs

:* ”’Regular tours”’ throughout Europe and overseas

:* ”’Documented artistic evolution”’ (recent transition to trio format)

:=== 4. Reliable and verifiable secondary sources ===

:Contrary to deletion claims, the page can rely on ”’multiple reliable secondary sources”’:

:”’Recent specialized publications:”’

:* Detailed review in Exposé Magazine (January 2025) for “Toucan” album

:* In-depth review on Progressor.net (2024)

:* Chronicle on Artists and Bands (Italian, 2024)

:* Mention in the book “Rock psychédélique : un voyage en 150 albums” (David Rassent, 2016)

:”’Institutional programming:”’

:* Sub (Vitry-sur-Seine) – Official cultural programming

:* Various documented European venues

:=== 5. Cultural and artistic impact ===

:”’Recognized musical classification:”’

:* ”’Rock In Opposition (RIO)”’ – Historic and documented musical movement

:* ”’Progressive avant-garde”’ – Established genre with its own notability criteria

:* ”’Heirs to Frank Zappa, King Crimson, Gong”’ – Artistic lineage recognized by critics

:== Proposed resolution ==

:Rather than deleting this page that meets notability criteria, I propose:

:# ”’Complete update”’ with available recent sources

:# ”’Reference improvement”’ by integrating recent international reviews

:# ”’Information updates”’ on the group’s current activity

:The Jack Dupon page deserves to be maintained and enriched rather than deleted, as it documents a group with established international recognition in progressive and experimental rock.

:== Sources to integrate immediately ==

:* Exposé Magazine: http://expose.org/index.php/articles/display/jack-dupon-toucan-6.html

:* Progressor.net: http://www.progressor.net/review/jack_dupon_2024.html

:* Artists and Bands: https://www.artistsandbands.org/ver2/recensioni/recensioni-album/11688-jack-dupon-toucan

:* ProgArchives: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=85201

:* Sub Vitry Programming: https://sub.vitry94.fr/3392-27018/programmation/fiche/foune-curry-jack-dupon.htm

:These sources demonstrate continued notability and current critical recognition that fully justify maintaining the page.

:== Additional note ==

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jack Dupon is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Dupon until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Meepmeepyeet (talk) 04:55, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

== Arguments for keeping the Jack Dupon page ==

As a Wikipedia contributor, I would like to provide factual elements to this discussion regarding the proposed deletion of the Jack Dupon page.

=== 1. Wikipedia notability criteria clearly met ===

The Jack Dupon page clearly meets the notability criteria established by Wikipedia for music groups:

Substantial international media coverage:

Exposé Magazine (USA) – International reference publication for progressive rock
Progressor.net – Recognized specialized site in the progressive community
Artists and Bands (Italy) – European music publication
Ahasverus (France) – Specialized music webzine
ProgArchives – International reference database

=== 2. Established professional recognition ===

Renowned international festivals:

Zappanale (Germany) – Alongside Magma, George Duke, Alice Cooper
FIMAV (Canada) – Festival International de Musique Actuelle de Victoriaville
ProgDay Festival (USA) – Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Rock In Opposition (France) – Festival dedicated to the RIO movement

Documented international tours:

United States (2010) – Organized by Transit Music Group
Canada (2015) – First Canadian tour
Balkans and Northern Europe (2011) – 8 countries, multiple cities
United Kingdom (2011) – Smugglers and Malcfest festivals

=== 3. Sustained activity and longevity ===

20 years of active career (2004-2024):

8 studio albums released
Several live albums and DVDs
Regular tours throughout Europe and overseas
Documented artistic evolution (recent transition to trio format)

=== 4. Reliable and verifiable secondary sources ===

Contrary to deletion claims, the page can rely on multiple reliable secondary sources:

Recent specialized publications:

Detailed review in Exposé Magazine (January 2025) for “Toucan” album
In-depth review on Progressor.net (2024)
Chronicle on Artists and Bands (Italian, 2024)
Mention in the book “Rock psychédélique : un voyage en 150 albums” (David Rassent, 2016)

Institutional programming:

Sub (Vitry-sur-Seine) – Official cultural programming
Various documented European venues

=== 5. Cultural and artistic impact ===

Recognized musical classification:

Rock In Opposition (RIO) – Historic and documented musical movement
Progressive avant-garde – Established genre with its own notability criteria
Heirs to Frank Zappa, King Crimson, Gong – Artistic lineage recognized by critics

== Proposed resolution ==

Rather than deleting this page that meets notability criteria, I propose:

Complete update with available recent sources
Reference improvement by integrating recent international reviews
Information updates on the group’s current activity

The Jack Dupon page deserves to be maintained and enriched rather than deleted, as it documents a group with established international recognition in progressive and experimental rock.

== Sources to integrate immediately ==

These sources demonstrate continued notability and current critical recognition that fully justify maintaining the page.

== Additional note ==

As a Wikipedia contributor, I am prepared to undertake the necessary improvements to bring this article up to current standards, incorporating these reliable sources and updating the information with proper citations. The goal is not simply to preserve the page, but to enhance its encyclopedic value through documented, verifiable information. Lisbet-Larsen (talk) 09:15, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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