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:::::::Sorry, when I said warning I meant informal. I’m not going to report you for LLM misuse based on this thread. What I meant is that I’m not going to engage further here. I have made my point, and you seem insistent on continuing to use LLMs to edit Wikipedia, which is disappointing but is your decision. [[User:NicheSports|NicheSports]] ([[User talk:NicheSports#top|talk]]) 20:11, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Thank you for your feedback. I understand that AI content isn’t allowed on Wiki, and I won’t use LLMs for article text. I personally and manually verified all sources for my edits (the one you undo in Übermensch Tour), including the non-English ones, and summarized them in neutral language, I even told you exactly where each part came from, I also removed that site you said it’s AI site (which I never knew before), I still didn’t edit any article since you undo my edits, because I’m confused to where is the mistakes (1. Searched realiable site, 2. Checked their info, 3. Added what’s been said about the topic, 4. Added the sources) as well tried to keep it short since someone else saw that making it long is some promotional unnecessary. If it possible go check the undo you did on the tour page, because that specific 2 edits I did all by myself manually after reviews from others. Thank you, have a nice day. [[User:KLIFE88|KLIFE88]] ([[User talk:KLIFE88|talk]]) 20:22, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hi @NicheSports! I saw that you ended up taking down the kimarite frequency table you made and was wondering if you could share the code you used for it so I could at least have it for myself and keep it updated. I really liked the table when I first saw it because it helped me learn about which kimarite are most common and look into the funny rare ones/see when they last happened. I think it was a great addition to the article, and it’s a shame not everyone liked it. If you’re a sumo fan, I hope you’re enjoying the basho. Thanks for helping me get into this great sport! EclecticBonobo (talk) 03:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, glad that you found it interesting! I didn’t understand the feedback from the Sumo project people but I’m not trying to go against consensus so I took it down. I do have the source code available but haven’t run it since the March basho. Give me a few weeks and I’ll clean it up and add a README and then send you an invite to a private github repo with the code. Can you email me your github username? NicheSports (talk) 14:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This fox snores loudly.

Polygnotus (talk) 19:24, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

in this house we do cardio to avoid sleep apnea! (jk – thank you) NicheSports (talk) 19:57, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @NicheSports! I saw you were reverting LLM material on certain articles. Good work! I found some LLM writing on the article Atonement by none other than Bookleo, but they’re so old I don’t know how to revert them properly. What can I do? C.eddy.garcia (talk) 14:50, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks for the message. The answer is that it depends. I’ve been following the approach discussed at WT:AIC § Guidance on handling article with mostly minor edits subsequent to LLM-rewrite. To determine whether “multiple material edits” have been made subsequent to the LLM content addition, I look at the diff of all changes that have been made after Bookleo’s last edit to the article. For Atonement that would be this. And honestly I don’t think this hits the standard of “multiple material edits” – it was mostly copy-editing and fixing references other than the removal of the LLM-generated “Critical Reviews” section. So in this case, I think you can manually restore the latest edit prior to Bookleo’s rewrite, which would be this. Then I would leave a note on the article talk page explaining why you reverted to the earlier version. You can leave a link to WT:AIC § yet another large swath of AI edits and mention it was also discussed at ANI so that people understand there is some community consensus for this type of significant reversion. In the hundreds of LLM reversions I have done in the past month, I have only had one editor object to the reversion, and here is how I handled that situation [1]. NicheSports (talk) 15:10, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

صحن (sahn) means plate or dish. So if you look for Enayat al-Sahn you are gonna find stuff like Bint al-sahn. Polygnotus (talk) 16:05, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have absolutely no plans to research this person any more lol, have done my duty. Also, welcome back! NicheSports (talk) 16:23, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! The real world is scary and wet. 1 star. Polygnotus (talk) 16:24, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I received a comment on my work for the Goro Dati Sfera section that was flagged. I did use an AI for writing assistance, but I edited and checked line by line, I fact checked everything. Instead of taking down what I spent hours checking, could it be reviewed please? The “inaccuracy” is on par with the rest of the wiki page where I cited the correct source but not a page number, if I need to retrieve the page number I will, and I also used text directly from the credible websites I sourced and wrote my own potions. While I had Ai help me keep my citations in order and proofread, that is my work and I can verify it and correct my know errors in citation that I was awaiting feedback on. Can my work please be reinstated? N.benavides25 (talk) 03:23, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, additionally I was flagged for my summary prose not matching my contribution prose. My apologies, but the shorthand colloquial speech I used for my summary was not professional; since I had spent hours on that project and simply wanted it up and reviewed. I was impatient and exhausted which is reflected in my time of publishing, which was into the wee hours of the morning. I also did not use the sandbox in my haste and due to my Wikipedia impatience. Can I have my work properly reviewed? I also realized the links bare an Ai signature because I had them formatted through there. They are all real links that I checked myself but had the misfortune of using Ai to proofread my work because I was so tired. N.benavides25 (talk) 03:50, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi N.benavides25, I’ve responded on your user talk page at User talk:N.benavides25 § Review of recent edits to Gregorio Dati article. Please join the discussion there. Thank you. — Newslinger talk 21:09, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Most of this message was written by Mz7 (source). Thanks, 🎃 SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 02:47, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The edits in Montmeyran are almostly disappeared in the article. it is claimed was “unsourced”? I’m gonna translate the corresponding the French Wikipedia article like this (i think the French wikipedia article has a reliable sources possibly), also removing stub since assessment moved to C lastly. TentingZones1 (talk) 04:37, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the significant article expansion because it was completely unsourced. I did not see a single reference added. NicheSports (talk) 04:42, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I noticed you’re relatively new but have already been involved in some helpful spaces around the project. Regarding Cardinal Number I’m getting the sense that there may be an element of WP:PROMO involved, beyond just the LLM stuff. Draft:Sriram Kosuri (which I draftified) reads like fairly typical WP:SELFPROMO by academics, but could also be the product of a fan or paid contributor. Since fish articles are rarely patrolled as diligently as other parts of the project, I am inclined to believe there is a slight chance that WP:GAMING may be a factor. Let me know your thoughts. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:07, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly confused by that editor. I think it is very unlikely that a tenured professor at a major research university would have a user page like this one (before they blanked it). I have no idea why this editor created Draft:Sriram Kosuri but I find it unlikely they are that person. UPE is possible (also see Draft:Cornitos) but they may just have eccentric interests and are playing around with LLMs. I don’t see GAMING here. I think we should just wait and see what they do next. Any continued LLM misuse probably needs to end up at ANI, unfortunately. I will likely G15 the fish stubs, I was running them through earwig first (no hits). NicheSports (talk) 23:29, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for offering help, here is an example of the edits I done, does it fit the rules?

G-Dragon’s wardrobe played a role in the visual presentation of the Übermensch tour, with costume changes corresponding to different segments of the performances. Tatler Asia reported on his opening outfit, which included a red rose-adorned jacket and crown.^[1] The article also mentioned his collaborations with designers and the use of bespoke stagewear.^[2]^[3] Billboard Philippines noted that G-Dragon’s outfits were coordinated with stage design elements, including inflatable figures, LED screens, and floral arrangements.^[4]

For his Paris performance, Vogue Korea reported that he wore a custom Chanel suit consisting of an off-white jacket with black crystal embroidery, a crimson silk shirt, and a felt hat decorated with crystals.^[5] For his Hanoi concert, Bazaar Vietnam reported that he wore a two-piece ivory suit with pinstripes for his performance of “Heartbreaker“.^[6] Zalora described the materials and design elements used in Kuala Lumpur, including sequins, tweed, leather, metallic embroidery, and recurring daisy motifs from his Peaceminusone brand.^[7]

Korean media outlets noted the integration of costumes with staging and lighting.^[8] Rolling Stone Korea described the tour as a visual performance, with fashion incorporated into the overall show.^[9] KoreaPortal highlighted the role of costumes in conjunction with lighting and stage visuals.^[10] KLIFE88 (talk) 18:25, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

KLIFE88, this is still LLM-generated. You have provided references here in three languages – Korean, Vietnamese, and English. Can you read Korean and Vietnamese? How did you verify that the LLM-generated content accurately reflected the source? This text is also overflowing with WP:AISIGNS. I spot checked one source which is the only reference for the sentence KoreaPortal highlighted the role of costumes in conjunction with lighting and stage visuals. This sentence is not supported by the source. Also, I am very confident the KoreaPortal article itself was AI-generated and thus is not a reliable source.

I can tell you are genuinely interested in contributing here but I am concerned about you using an LLM to generate this potential edit immediately after I explained to you on your talk page why your usage of LLMs is violating wikipedia policy. Simply put I do not think that you have the English-language ability to use LLMs in compliance with wikipedia policies WP:V, WP:NPOV, and WP:RS, among others. That is not an insult! I think that you can find other ways to contribute here. But if you continue to use LLMs on wikipedia you will very likely be blocked, and soon. Please, please stop using these tools. NicheSports (talk) 18:38, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m sorry confused here, is it not allowed to use news from other languages then English? I’ve used non English sources for more then +10 years, translated them with Google translation or any other available, and wrote it in English, it was never a problem before? I’m really confused. If it possible can you edit the first part that have 4 sources and make it in the proper way so I can understand what way it suppose to be? You can use one or two source, no need for the entire thing. I’m really trying here to understand, please bear with me KLIFE88 (talk) 19:29, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that, after multiple warnings, you continue using LLMs to generate article content that violates WP:V and WP:NPOV NicheSports (talk) 19:32, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What’s I wrote is exactly what’s said on the article

Tatler Asia “reported on his opening outfit, which included a red rose-adorned jacket and crown” (from the 11 paragraph of the article, under the 2nd quoted IG post)

“The article also mentioned his collaborations with designers and the use of bespoke stagewear” (2nd paragraph of the referenced article)

Billboard Philippines noted that “G-Dragon’s outfits were coordinated with stage design elements, including inflatable figures, LED screens, and floral arrangements” (6th paragraph of the article)

Is this not allowed to be added? Or it suppose to be added as quotes (“”) KLIFE88 (talk) 19:41, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not saying that every claim fails verification, but the KoreaPost article I spot checked did. I also doubt you checked any of the non-English language sources, but I could be wrong. Beyond the WP:V issue(s), your proposed edit still has signs of LLM “puffery” (overemphasis on attribution, overuse of “highlight”, simplication of the main point of the underlying sources, etc.). KLIFE88, this is probably my last warning here. I am not an admin so I can’t do anything directly, but I am very active in LLM patrol/cleanup and I have seen this play out many times with similar cases of editors misusing LLMs past multiple warnings. If you continue to use LLMs to edit wikipedia you are very likely to be blocked from editing, and soon. NicheSports (talk) 19:53, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t know why you making warnings here when I stopped editing since you post to me about it? And I’m only here asking for more info so I can edit them probably if told it’s correct, but you keep adding warning at every reply is weird. As for KoreaPost I never knew it was AI site, this is the first known this so thanks for the notice, I won’t be using that site. As for the sources from other languages here are where it was said exactly from each source: KLIFE88 (talk) 20:07, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vogue Korea reported that he wore a custom Chanel suit consisting of an off-white jacket with black crystal embroidery, a crimson silk shirt, and a felt hat decorated with crystals. (Headline + 3rd paragraph)

Bazaar Vietnam reported that he wore a two-piece ivory suit with pinstripes for his performance of “Heartbreaker”. (3rd paragraph)

Korean media outlets noted the integration of costumes with staging and lighting. (3rd and 7th paragraphs of the article)

Rolling Stone Korea described the tour as a visual performance, with fashion incorporated into the overall show. (3rd and 5th paragraphs of the article) KLIFE88 (talk) 20:08, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, when I said warning I meant informal. I’m not going to report you for LLM misuse based on this thread. What I meant is that I’m not going to engage further here. I have made my point, and you seem insistent on continuing to use LLMs to edit Wikipedia, which is disappointing but is your decision. NicheSports (talk) 20:11, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback. I understand that AI content isn’t allowed on Wiki, and I won’t use LLMs for article text. I personally and manually verified all sources for my edits (the one you undo in Übermensch Tour), including the non-English ones, and summarized them in neutral language, I even told you exactly where each part came from, I also removed that site you said it’s AI site (which I never knew before), I still didn’t edit any article since you undo my edits, because I’m confused to where is the mistakes (1. Searched realiable site, 2. Checked their info, 3. Added what’s been said about the topic, 4. Added the sources) as well tried to keep it short since someone else saw that making it long is some promotional unnecessary. If it possible go check the undo you did on the tour page, because that specific 2 edits I did all by myself manually after reviews from others. Thank you, have a nice day. KLIFE88 (talk) 20:22, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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