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::Where is the reference for this “His 1806 report on the vaccination campaign” What and where is the report? I’ll move these question to the talk. I’ll post stuff and we can work together to fix it. ”'[[User:scope_creep|scope_creep]][[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]”’ 06:57, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|PeterCBTurnbull}} Ping me when you get in, so I can get this article into mainspace. ”'[[User:scope_creep|scope_creep]][[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]”’ 18:05, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:William Tudor (surgeon)|William Tudor (surgeon)]] (October 28) ==

<div style=”border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: var(–background-color-warning-subtle, #fdf2d5); color: inherit; padding: 0.5em 1em; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;”> [[File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg|50px|left]]Your recent article submission to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for Creation]] has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.<nowiki> </nowiki>The reason left by ChrysGalley was:

{{divbox|gray|3=This submission is not adequately supported by [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. ”Reliable” sources are required so that information can be [[WP:Verifiability|verified]]. If you need help with referencing, please see [[Help:Referencing for beginners|Referencing for beginners]] and [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|Citing sources]].|}}<!–

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{{divbox|blue|3=This appears to be Work In Progress, and the decline here is very reluctantly issued. From a notability perspective, measured against AFD standards, then it not clear that this article is through the hurdles. The text in some areas is conjecture, and open to improvement. The first section before the Family sub section is straightforward, less so the rest, however that is where the sources rest. There is reference to an obituary but without a source. There is the “Kalendar” (primary source) and a sentence in Burney and some other listings. Big chunks of the article have no source at all.

I hope this can be brought over the line, the historical context at least is clear. Maybe strip back to the first sections and carry forward the sources?}} Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit ”after they have been resolved”.

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[[User:ChrysGalley|ChrysGalley]] ([[User talk:ChrysGalley|talk]]) 00:15, 28 October 2025 (UTC)</div><!–Template:AfC decline–>

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Timtrent were: The comment the reviewer left was:

Substantially unreferenced. What are your sources for all this prose, please?

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, PeterCBTurnbull!
Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we’d love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me with…
William Tudor (Surgeon).
Page 4/8, under “Family and early life”, after Reference 3, I cannot correct the fault specified in red “There are .. tags on this page without content ..” I cannot find the tag or tags referred to. If you can find and delete these, please, I would be most grateful. Otherwise I believe the article is read for re-submission. Thank you. Peter Turnbull PeterCBTurnbull (talk) 12:18, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve fixed that for you, @PeterCBTurnbull (you had an errant <ref with no closing bracket) and submitted the draft for review. qcne (talk) 12:25, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, I appreciate it but where do I find the corrected submission, please? I am not very tech-proficient, I’m afraid PeterCBTurnbull (talk) 12:50, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, it looks like your edits overwrote mine, so it undid my correction and the submission. I have re-done that for you. Here Draft:William_Tudor_(surgeon). qcne (talk) 12:52, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That’s great now. Again I appreciate your kind help and, indeed, the speed at which you came back to me. I hope I have now met the original reasons for it not being accepted. I’ll re-check it carefully and re-submit it. Thanks again. 2A00:23C7:AE8F:5501:3DEB:D634:B3A0:DA (talk) 12:57, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. I have carefully read through that last draft you kindly corrected 12.52 yesterday. It all seems as good as I can make it. I cannot work out how to officially re-submit it for review – or has that already been done (by me inadvertently or by you for me?). If that final step has not happened, please could you gu ide me once more. Thank you PeterCBTurnbull (talk) 10:53, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @PeterCBTurnbull. No worries – it’s been submitted for review and is now in the pile of drafts to be reviewed. You’ll get notified here when a reviewer reviews it. qcne (talk) 19:01, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant and thanks once again. I appreciate the help. Peter 81.157.254.250 (talk) 21:21, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello qcne once again. As you see my entry has been refused again. I’m giving up now; I can’t do more of what is asked, which I think is rather stupid anyway. I don’t want to put any more time into it. But many thanks again for your time and input. Sincerely, Peter 2A00:23C7:AE8F:5501:E16C:9A6E:A780:6E6A (talk) 11:21, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will add a tag to the draft, so that it won’t get deleted in six months of no activity. qcne (talk) 16:36, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Scope creep was: The comment the reviewer left was:

Large sections are still unsourced. It looks as though its been well researched but it needs to be sourced. Reference 5 is unreliabel and should be removed. It is underlinked as well. Also if there is statements like “It seems likely that his working and family life left little time for any such activities” then maybe it conjecture,perhaps the reason its not source and needs removed. Ping me when your finished.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

scope_creep^Talk 20:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Scope Creep, I have done my best to address your comments, taking out Ref 5 and removing what you judged unacceptable conjecture. I have also added a couple of accession numbers in the Sources section. I am unable to identify the “large sections still unsourced” and feel I have found all available sources of information on William Tudor both by online searches and personal visits to all the places he grew up and later worked in plus the local archives of those places (Abergavenny, Monmouth and Bath) and relevant libraries (same cities, Royal College of Surgeons, British Library and military museums). Well into my 80s, I’m not really equipped to do more. If you can delete those “large unsourced sections” such that the submission satisfies you, you have my complete permission to do that and I would be grateful if you would do so. I do feel William Tudor merits a Wikipedia entry. The house he built, Kelston Knoll, is on Wikipedia, without, at present, a link to him! So I request you please make the adjustments you judge fit and give the necessary go-ahead for the entry to be officially included in Wikipedia. With thanks. Peter Turnbull. PeterCBTurnbull (talk) 10:58, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, PeterCBTurnbull. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:William Tudor (surgeon), a page you created, has not been edited in at least five months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:06, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello once again. I believe I have addressed all your comments and requirements now and that the article is ready for re-submission. If you are now ok with it, do you have the authority to ‘pass’ it for movement to the main page as ‘accepted’, or do I need to re-submit it myself? Thank you again. PeterT PeterCBTurnbull (talk) 11:00, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello PeterCBTurnbull,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Mekomo, and I thank you for your contributions.

I wanted to let you know, however, that I have tagged an article that you started, Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition, for deletion, because there’s already a page about that topic at [[1]]. Please don’t be discouraged; we appreciate your effort in creating new articles. To avoid this in the future, consider using the search function to find pages that already cover what you want to write about.

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Mekomo (talk) 10:47, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Duplicate article.

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Yes, please delete. It was an unintended error/mistake. Thank you 2A00:23C7:AE8F:5501:5986:C5A9:1802:373D (talk) 09:05, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @PeterCBTurnbull: I’ve been updating the article, particularly the references and doing some linking. Is this “Derry W. (ed.). 1982. Burney, F. 1817-1818. Journals and letters. Volume X. Ed. Oxford: Clarendon Press. pp. 746-908.” this here [2]? scope_creep^Talk 05:46, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The second paragraph in “Surgeon at Bath General Hospital” needs referenced. scope_creep^Talk 05:56, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do the details for this for example: “The Medico-Chirurgical Transactions of the Medical and Chirurgical Society of London inform us that he became a Fellow in 1820”. That can be made into a reference. scope_creep^Talk 05:58, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PeterCBTurnbull: Can you make yourself available in the next few days/weeks to fix some of the problems in the article. Like adding new references, adding dates in. I can post some question in the draft talk page and maybe we can work together to answer them, for example “Tudor was the army surgeon to the Prince of Wales (Prince Regent, becoming king George IV in 1820)”. There is reams of detail on prince of wales but where is the date this happened and where? What battle. Can you provide a reference? scope_creep^Talk 06:55, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the reference for this “His 1806 report on the vaccination campaign” What and where is the report? I’ll move these question to the talk. I’ll post stuff and we can work together to fix it. scope_creep^Talk 06:57, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PeterCBTurnbull: Ping me when you get in, so I can get this article into mainspace. scope_creep^Talk 18:05, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by ChrysGalley was: The comment the reviewer left was:

This appears to be Work In Progress, and the decline here is very reluctantly issued. From a notability perspective, measured against AFD standards, then it not clear that this article is through the hurdles. The text in some areas is conjecture, and open to improvement. The first section before the Family sub section is straightforward, less so the rest, however that is where the sources rest. There is reference to an obituary but without a source. There is the “Kalendar” (primary source) and a sentence in Burney and some other listings. Big chunks of the article have no source at all.
I hope this can be brought over the line, the historical context at least is clear. Maybe strip back to the first sections and carry forward the sources?

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

ChrysGalley (talk) 00:15, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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