Respectfully,
Respectfully,
[[User:Saints Row Dubber|Saints Row Dubber]] ([[User talk:Saints Row Dubber|talk]])
[[User:Saints Row Dubber|Saints Row Dubber]] ([[User talk:Saints Row Dubber|talk]])
:{{ping|331dot}}, see [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/DragonofBatley#30_September_block_comments|my comment]] at the SPI about their language. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 12:40, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
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If ye’ve got a question, want tae chat aboot an edit, or just fancy a blether aboot some obscure bit o’ trivia, fire away. I’ll dae ma best tae reply soon as I can.
Guid rule o’ thumb: be civil, be clear, and dinnae be a walloper. 😉
If this is yer first time leavin’ a message on a talk page, nae worries – we were all new once. Just sign yer post wi’ four tildes (Saints Row Dubber (talk) 18:09, 13 September 2025 (UTC)) so I ken who ye are.

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Hi there! Saw your post on the teahouse – I’m Sara, and I’m a Programme Manager at Wikimedia UK, Scotland’s part of my remit. Very happy to point you in the direction of some resources, feel free to drop me a line! sara.thomas@wikimedia.org.uk 🙂 Sara Thomas (WMUK) (talk) 08:14, 18 September 2025 (UTC)

{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Yamla (talk) 10:23, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

This user’s unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).
Saints Row Dubber (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Tae the administrators handlin this block,
- I’m Saints Row Dubber. I wis recently blocked as bein a sockpuppet o’ DragonofBatley. I deny that accusation outright and ask that this block be lifted immediately — or, if ye remain convinced, that ye present the concrete technical evidence linkin the two accounts (IP addresses, proxied connections, or other server logs) so it can be properly addressed.
- Here are the plain facts — they do nae match:
- • Account age & activity — my account is brand new and has a handful o’ edits made since creation (23 edits; account created 13 September 2025). DragonofBatley is a long-standing account wi’ many thousands o’ edits (20,741 edits; account created 22 March 2020). These are not comparable patterns o’ use. Wikipedia+1
- • Edit volume & focus — DragonofBatley’s contributions are voluminous and span many years and pages (lots o’ user-talk posts, long threads and repeated activity). My edits are few, recent, and mainly in newcomer/teahouse and a couple o’ minor article edits — no sustained, large-scale editing patten that would match the other account. Pick any contiguous month o’ their history and it shows hundreds o’ edits; mine show only a few, newly created topics. Wikipedia+1
- • Writing & userpage evidence — my userpage and my first posts use Scots phrasing and a personal voice (which I’ve used consistently on my talk page). The visible style on my talk page is distinct and intentional. If the concern is “stylistic resemblance,” then note that my page openly displays that Scots tone and explains my edit approach; that is not concealment or malicious behaviour. Wikipedia+1
- If the accusation rests on anything other than verifiable technical evidence (for example, perceived similarity o’ phrasing, or a supposition that because two accounts touched a similar topic they must be the same person), then that is not sufficient to sustain an indefinite block. Similar turns o’ phrase or topic overlap — especially in narrow subject areas — are common and do nae prove sockpuppetry.
- What I ask for:
- Lift this block now, on the balance o’ the demonstrable differences above.
- If you insist on retainin the block, please publish the precise technical basis for the claim (IP linkage or other server logs). I will cooperate fully. If there is a genuine technical link, I will explain the circumstances; if there is nae link, please restore my account and correct the record.
- If ye prefer a formal sockpuppet investigation, open one and list the evidence. I will respond there and provide anything necessary to clear this up.
- Finally — I will nae attempt evasive behaviour. I value contributin fairly. This block harms my ability tae help and appears to be based on supposition rather than tech evidence. If there’s somethin’ else ye need from me right now (proof of identity by e-mail, attestations, or logs I can provide), tell me and I’ll supply it.
- Regards,
- Saints Row Dubber Saints Row Dubber (talk) 11:15, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Checkusers cannot reveal the specific private technical evidence that they see, they sign nondisclosure and privacy agreements. In a way, the focus on technical evidence that you and others at your sock/meat farm have kinda supports the block itself. No, we won’t help you better avoid detection. You say ” If there is a genuine technical link, I will explain the circumstances”; you may do this now, you don’t need to know what the specific evidence is.
Your use of what you say is Scottish wording(my first impression was you were trying to sound like a pirate, not Scottish) seems to be an attempt to conceal language similarities. 331dot (talk) 11:36, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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- I need tae say straight oot that I am deeply offended by the comment dismissin my Scots writin as “tryin tae sound like a pirate”. I am a Scotsman, and Scots is my heritage tongue. It is recognised by the Scottish Parliament and by linguists worldwide as a language in its ain right. For an administrator tae belittle it as “pirate-speak” is nae just inaccurate, it’s derogatory and disrespectful.
I use Scots naturally, because it’s pairt o’ who I am. It is nae camouflage, nae “sock trick”, nae act o’ concealment. If ye actually compare my edits tae DragonofBatley’s, there’s nae stylistic or content overlap whatsoever. We write different, we edit different, and we focus on entirely different things. The idea that my use o’ Scots somehow “hides” similarities collapses at the first glance o’ evidence, because the similarities simply are nae there.
Wi’ respect, it seems that what’s happened here is a wee bit lack o’ knowledge o’ Scottish history and language. Scots is centuries auld, wi’ its ain literature, grammar, and vocabulary, spoken by millions over the centuries. Confusin that wi’ “pirate chat” shows a misundirstandin o’ baith Scots and Scotland’s cultural heritage. A friendly bit o’ advice: haein a read through Robert Burns, William Dunbar, or even the Scottish Parliament’s ain language resources would gie ye a better sicht o’ the language than comparin it tae parrots an’ eye-patches.
The block accusation feels like it rests mair on this cultural misundirstandin than on any concrete evidence. That is nae fair, and it reduces a legitimate national language tae a punchline. I’m askin for the block tae be reconsidered on the evidence o’ my edits, not on mockery o’ my heritage.
Respectfully,
Saints Row Dubber (talk)
- @331dot:, see my comment at the SPI about their language. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 12:40, 30 September 2025 (UTC)



