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I’ve done my best to put the fear of God into anyone considering self-nomination. Honestly I’m thinking of asking a question about it at the next elections: Did you know how unlikely a self-nom is to succeed? Did you consider finding a nominator? If not, what was your reasoning on that? Valereee (talk) 18:32, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the first is a bit of a gotcha, but asking the second as something like “What contributed to your decision to run without a nominator?” might save some of the candidates who would otherwise just barely miss the cut. — asilvering (talk) 22:55, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think this point is true for EFA, and I think both election results have proven it. — asilvering (talk) 19:37, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering, remove/add/edit anything at will! I literally copied this over from the RfA advice and started editing it. Valereee (talk) 21:30, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this section is really showing its age, and at any rate is mostly applicable to RFA, where a single oppose can feel very bad indeed. At EFA, however, most of these are less important and you won’t even know if this is why people opposed. imo most of these should be rephrased as “things to consider doing before running” rather than “dire warnings for people considering running”. — asilvering (talk) 19:43, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was actually wondering if the entire two sections of points should just go away? Valereee (talk) 21:30, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly… yes. I’ll just cut them both. — asilvering (talk) 22:39, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is this different enough from the RFA advice page? Or should we centralize our advice at the other page? –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:17, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It’s just in progress. I think it makes sense to have separate advice, as running in RFA and EFA is not all that similar in many important ways. — asilvering (talk) 22:38, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I actually started out doing that there, then reverted and copy/pasted/edited here because it became clear quickly that it was going to be difficult to deal with both processes in a single document. They’re really very different. No objection if you think you can come up with some way to combine, though! Valereee (talk) 23:01, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you can put a note at the top of the page for readers to read the other page first. Then you can delete all the material on this page that was copied from the other page, and on this page just focus on material that’s different for administrator elections. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:03, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I wouldn’t advise that. — asilvering (talk) 03:48, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the other page has gotten so bloated over the years that I kind of hate to advise reading it first. Some of the info is from 2008. Valereee (talk) 09:44, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think we could just dispense with this section, since AELECT is so much less drama/stress? Valereee (talk) 23:03, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We could, but it’s not so wall-of-texty that it bugs me. I also like that it links WP:ADMINGUIDE. — asilvering (talk) 00:11, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m thinking of going through and pulling any that don’t have relevance here. Stuff last updated so long ago that it may not even be true any more, stuff about RfA reform, essays about tangentially related things? Valereee (talk) 09:53, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done that, reorganized a bit. Didn’t see any reason to divide essays up by space. Not sure about an entire section on age; I can only recall one RfA where that was an issue. Valereee (talk) 11:43, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]