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== Politely request more people at a discussion in order to reach a consensus/agreement ==

[[Talk:Presidential parliamentary republic#Perhaps change the Title?]]

Discussion is about changing the title. I request politely for need more people to talk and engage about the topic and as it currently seems to be basically between me and Lucky.

[[User:GuesanLoyalist|GuesanLoyalist]] ([[User talk:GuesanLoyalist|talk]]) 12:37, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

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I propose that we create a new {{infobox political movement}} template to support articles like America First, Antifa (United States), etc. I envision that it will have many fields similar to {{infobox political party}}, plus a field for “Methods” and minus fields for leaders and headquarters. If this moves forward, I will need a ton of help for how to create such an infobox. For example, can I simplify the work by first copying several articles/files from {{infobox political party}} and then modifying them? Thank you —Quantling (talk | contribs) 13:39, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support; There needs to be a more appropriate range of infoboxes for articles surrounding loosely-defined political bodies, particularly movements and party factions. Maybe this template could be designed for bodies that don’t cleanly fit into the ‘party’ or ‘organisation’ boxes?

Alternatively, perhaps the main political party infobox could be reworked to be more applicable to groups such as factions and this new ‘movement’ infobox could exclusively be designed for loose groupings that don’t have any formal organisational structures (e.g. Trumpism, Antifa (United States), teal independents, etc.)

I’ve often found that articles for both factions and moments tend to use either the organisation infobox or party infobox and that neither are particularly well-suited for this purpose, so a change is definitely needed nonetheless. Loytra^✨ 13:26, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support, unless someone can find a better one. The organization boxes aren’t really designed for political movements, and movements are not (necessarily) political parties, so having a box independent from them would be best. —Aquillion (talk) 16:13, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. I don’t think this sort of topic lends itself to an infobox, which primarily includes precise facts, written as short as possible. There are many such fields for political parties (office-holders, membership, headquarters etc.), but few would make sense for a loosely-defined movement (start year, slogan, predecessor). Some fields which could make sense and have a precise content are likely to be very debatable (leader, spokesperson, affiliations). And the most relevant sorts of information are going to be a battlefield (ideology, methods, affiliation). Movements of this sort seem closer to an ideology than to a formal political party, and you’ll notice that there are no infoboxes for ideologies. Keriluamox (talk) 17:51, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose.– per Keriluamox, he explained and summarized everything well. Volodia.woldemar (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• comment – I just took a look at Occupy Wall Street and found they’re using the {{infobox civil conflict}}. Which is OK, except then I checked the Occupy movement page and found it’s doing the same thing… for the whole movement?! Seems like there isn’t a good consistent standard and it might be worth the experiment to create one, or at least, something like {{infobox political party}} could perhaps be changed to something broader (“political faction” etc) to encompass political movements without electoral ambition. Hornpipe2 (talk) 14:00, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I fully support this idea. However, I believe if we want to do this, we need to have it so that all possible parameters for a potential ideology infobox are included in this movement infobox. So many articles across Wikipedia, about ideologies and movements, have to make do with other infoboxes and I think that is really detrimental. As @Hornpipe2 already mentioned, the Occupy Movement article has to try and make do with the Infobox civil conflict. Another example would be Trumpism which currently uses the political party infobox to portray the movement. I am also open to Hornpipe2’s idea of expanding the political party infobox to a broader political faction infobox. — EarthDude (Talk) 03:45, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While we are at it, we should discuss what parameters such an infobox would include, so as to make the proposal more clear. — EarthDude (Talk) 03:46, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Class president § Proposed mergers, and more specifically the newer section named § Proposal: Rename “Class president” to a more encompassing title also including, the discussion of student government in schools. Issac I Navarro (talk) 19:26, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article Political philosophy is currently a candidate for featured article status. Reviews and other feedback are appreciated at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Political philosophy/archive1. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:22, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Link: Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 October 13#File:Online Neo-Nazis in Roblox holding Nazi flags.jpg. George Ho (talk) 00:35, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:People’s Assembly of Syria#Requested move 8 October 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk | contribs) 00:41, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For the article, title seems too long for a Wikipedia article, perhaps change it instead into something like Executive parliamentary or Presidential parliamentary. We could potentially move the article into Semi-parliamentary system, Parliamentary system, or anything related to the types/forms of government.

(Made another post similar to this if you wanted to know that for some reason)

GuesanLoyalist (talk) 10:41, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think moving it to “Presidential parliamentary republic”, as you suggested, would be a great idea. The current title is really too long — EarthDude (Talk) 11:43, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, will move the page right now. GuesanLoyalist (talk) 12:14, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait actually, I need like 1-2 more people’s approval to do so as moving a page is a pretty big thing to do.

sorry for not being able to deliver the promise of the first message 🙁

GuesanLoyalist (talk) 12:16, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, no worries! No need to apologize! At the end of the day, Wikipedia has no deadline 😀

Let’s wait and see if a few more editors chime in and give their opinions or thoughts, or perhaps alternative name proposals. If none do, you could either BOLDLY make the name change yourself or begin a move discussion at the talk page of the article. — EarthDude (Talk) 12:24, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you sir 😀 GuesanLoyalist (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just did the name change, check it out!

Presidential parliamentary republic GuesanLoyalist (talk) 21:00, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Prayagraj#Requested move 28 October 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — EarthDude (Talk) 12:15, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Knowa De Baraso, for the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:06, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has requested that Cabinet crisis be moved to another page, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. RandFreeman (talk) 19:59, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

— EarthDude (Talk) 12:20, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Presidential parliamentary republic#Perhaps change the Title?

Discussion is about changing the title. I request politely for need more people to talk and engage about the topic and as it currently seems to be basically between me and Lucky.

GuesanLoyalist (talk) 12:37, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]