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::*”’Redirect”’ To the list of accidents involving AN-24 as suggested by Rosbif. This accident only had routine event coverage. I am not finding coverage beyond the initial news cycle in November 2010 + some reports when safety analysis was released. Given the lack of continued coverage or significant changes to government policies based on this accident, it should be deleted/redirected per [[WP:EVENTCRIT]]#4. An entry in the appropriate list is more than enough for this crash. |
::*”’Redirect”’ To the list of accidents involving AN-24 as suggested by Rosbif. This accident only had routine event coverage. I am not finding coverage beyond the initial news cycle in November 2010 + some reports when safety analysis was released. Given the lack of continued coverage or significant changes to government policies based on this accident, it should be deleted/redirected per [[WP:EVENTCRIT]]#4. An entry in the appropriate list is more than enough for this crash. |
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::”’Comment”’ Here are some additional sources |
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:::[https://www.ajnet.me/news/2012/2/27/%D9%86%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A9-%D9%88%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%B7%D9%85-%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D8%A9 Sudanese minister survives plane crash | News | Al Jazeera Net] |
:::[https://www.ajnet.me/news/2012/2/27/%D9%86%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A9-%D9%88%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%B7%D9%85-%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D8%A9 Sudanese minister survives plane crash | News | Al Jazeera Net] |
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:::[https://www.albayan.ae/one-world/arabs/2012-10-07-1.1742175 Monitoring: Sudanese plane crashes in the last 15 years] |
:::[https://www.albayan.ae/one-world/arabs/2012-10-07-1.1742175 Monitoring: Sudanese plane crashes in the last 15 years] |
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Latest revision as of 04:17, 2 December 2025
- 2010 Tarco Air Antonov An-24 crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT:
Per WP:GNG, “sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability“. The sources in article consist of contemporary news coverage and a database, none of which are secondary. The same goes with the sources provided in the previous AfD which I analyzed here.
There is no sustained continued coverage of the accident, and there are no retrospective sources that provide significant/in-depth coverage of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated.
WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks per the above.
Possible alternatives to deletion include merging/redirecting this article to either List of accidents and incidents involving the Antonov An-24#2010s or Tarco Aviation. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Aviation, Transportation, and Sudan. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Nothing has changed since the last AFD that makes this not notable. Your just saying the same kind of stuff from the last AFD. I am voting keep based on the comments of @Nfutvol and @SportingFlyer from the first one. Zaptain United (talk) 14:05, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Also isn’t it a little too soon to nominate this again? I thought you had to wait at least a year?  Zaptain United (talk) 14:07, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- I’m not even sure I understand your comment. What exactly is meant to change for one to bring this at AfD? There’s nothing against restating one’s position (not that all of what I said is the same). And six months is the recommended time, not one year. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:15, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Okay 6 months is the recommended time. I understand. But, I notice you tried to do a deletion review, but most of the editors voted to not relist the AFD. I don’t get the point of doing this again when not only the previous AFD decided to keep the article, but also the deletion review where more experienced and familiar editors endorsed the closer. Zaptain United (talk) 16:10, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, and others also shared the same opinion as me. The AfD was closed nine months ago, so I don’t see a problem with attempting another discussion. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:21, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Okay 6 months is the recommended time. I understand. But, I notice you tried to do a deletion review, but most of the editors voted to not relist the AFD. I don’t get the point of doing this again when not only the previous AFD decided to keep the article, but also the deletion review where more experienced and familiar editors endorsed the closer. Zaptain United (talk) 16:10, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- I’m not even sure I understand your comment. What exactly is meant to change for one to bring this at AfD? There’s nothing against restating one’s position (not that all of what I said is the same). And six months is the recommended time, not one year. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:15, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Also isn’t it a little too soon to nominate this again? I thought you had to wait at least a year?  Zaptain United (talk) 14:07, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, yes I agree with Zaptain United. ~2025-35574-32 (talk) 07:23, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep nothing has changed since the last AfD. SportingFlyer T·C 12:09, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of accidents and incidents involving the Antonov An-24#2010s: the previous AfD close wasn’t exactly a resounding consensus, noting some weak arguments. Deletion review is not material here: DRV serves only to determine whether the closure was “reasonable”, not to rehash the deletion discussion per se. This was a routine accident covered by WP:EVENTCRIT#4, with no WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE beyond the initial news cycle. Rosbif73 (talk) 09:03, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is nothing procedurally wrong with this AfD. Please focus on policy based reasons about the article’s notability or lack there of rather than whether the discussion should exist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 23:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC)-
- Redirect To the list of accidents involving AN-24 as suggested by Rosbif. This accident only had routine event coverage. I am not finding coverage beyond the initial news cycle in November 2010 + some reports when safety analysis was released. Given the lack of continued coverage or significant changes to government policies based on this accident, it should be deleted/redirected per WP:EVENTCRIT#4. An entry in the appropriate list is more than enough for this crash.
- Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 13:05, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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