:::Thanks for the answer. Sadly I still can’t see it in the final paragraph [[WP:FAILN]]. [[User:GothicGolem29|<span style=”color: DarkViolet”>GothicGolem29</span>]] ([[User talk:GothicGolem29|<span style=”color: DeepSkyBlue”>talk</span>]]) 17:05, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the answer. Sadly I still can’t see it in the final paragraph [[WP:FAILN]]. [[User:GothicGolem29|<span style=”color: DarkViolet”>GothicGolem29</span>]] ([[User talk:GothicGolem29|<span style=”color: DeepSkyBlue”>talk</span>]]) 17:05, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
::::I can confirm the award is mentioned in that paragraph! You are talking about the fact that the award is mentioned in the link provided by GoldenJDM, are you not? (Just to make sure you are not looking for something else elsewhere). You have GoldenJDM’s source and another source I provided -see the second part of my vote, in my reply-. The fact that you cannot access it or read it for some reason is sad indeed but has nothing to do with [[WP:FAILN]] (that page mentions what to do “If appropriate sources cannot be found after a good-faith search for them”: that’s exactly the opposite case here… some sources have been found and presented!); again, other sources exist. <span style=”text-shadow: #C00C00 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em, #004170 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em, #004170 0.3em 0.3em 0.3em”>[[User talk:Eva UX|<span style=”font-family:Hoefler;color:#DA291C”>e.ux</span>]]</span> 22:32, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
::::I can confirm the award is mentioned in that paragraph! You are talking about the fact that the award is mentioned in the link provided by GoldenJDM, are you not? (Just to make sure you are not looking for something else elsewhere). You have GoldenJDM’s source and another source I provided -see the second part of my vote, in my reply-. The fact that you cannot access it or read it for some reason is sad indeed but has nothing to do with [[WP:FAILN]] (that page mentions what to do “If appropriate sources cannot be found after a good-faith search for them”: that’s exactly the opposite case here… some sources have been found and presented!); again, other sources exist. <span style=”text-shadow: #C00C00 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em, #004170 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em, #004170 0.3em 0.3em 0.3em”>[[User talk:Eva UX|<span style=”font-family:Hoefler;color:#DA291C”>e.ux</span>]]</span> 22:32, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
::::This link takes you directly to ”'[https://ammarfilm.ir/ammar-news/%d8%b7%d8%a7%d9%84%d8%a8-%d8%b2%d8%a7%d8%af%d9%87-%d8%ac%d8%b4%d9%86%d9%88%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%87-%d9%81%db%8c%d9%84%d9%85-%d8%b9%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b1-%d8%ac%d8%b4%d9%86%d9%88%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%87-%d8%a7%d9%86/#:~:text=%D8%AF%D8%B1%20%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8%B4%20%D9%BE%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C,%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B2%DB%8C%C2%BB%20%D8%A7%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%20%DA%A9%D8%B1%D8%AF. that paragraph]”’. [[user:GoldenJDM|<span style=”padding:2px 4px; background:#000; color:gold; font-family:Georgia;”>Golden</span><span style=”padding:2px 4px; background:#FFD700; color:black; font-family:’Courier New’;”>JDM</span>]] ([[User talk:GoldenJDM|talk]]) 16:33, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
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Notability issue Shkuru Afshar (talk) 06:52, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shkuru Afshar (talk) 06:52, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation and Iran. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 07:37, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: seems to have attracted enough public attention for this page to be kept as a standalone article; or redirect to List of Iranian films of the 2010s
or to Hossein Soltani-wrong person- e.ux 08:48, 18 October 2025 (UTC)- Just being listed in Lists of Iranian films 2010 in Wikipedia is not enough reason. Simply, someone can add this anime to that list.
- The only award that this anime is received is from a government festival, not from any independent or international festival. This article is also nominated for deletion in Persian Wikipedia. Shkuru Afshar (talk) 11:04, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think you didn’t understand what I wrote. I am saying that the page, if not kept, could be redirected to that list, not that it should be kept because it is mentioned there. As for the festival, it may be a “government festival” but if the award is significant it contributes to notability. As for what is currently happening on the Wikipedia in Persian regarding the article about that film, I see you have !voted there but Wikipedias do not have an all-language standard for notability. Many pages are kept per given policies on this wp and deleted on other wp and vice-versa. The film was released, information’s verifiable and redirect to a list of film is the standard alternative to deletion when the director has no page -yet-; I suggested another target but it was the wrong person. e.ux 12:35, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- This looks like an independent review: https://www.hawzahnews.com/news/1285494/انیمیشن-فرمانروای-آب-پلی-میان-نسل-جدید-و-دستاوردهای-علمی-کشور – and so does this: https://sabakhabar.ir/529245/فرمانروای-آب؛-آرمانهای-بزرگی-که-در-دریای-روایتهای-پیچیده-غرق-شد/ Sources also include – https://www.asriran.com/fa/news/1080209/فرمانروای-آب-انیمیشن-ایرانی-که-۱۲-سال-قبل-جنگ-امروز-را-پیش%E2%80%8Cبینی-کرد ; https://www.imna.ir/news/915358/اکران-پویانمایی-فرمانروای-آب-در-نماز-جمعه-تهران-one of various articles about screenings in 2025 – while https://www.ilna.ir/بخش-فرهنگ-هنر-6/1675924-فرمانروای-آب-تلاشی-ست-برای-پرداختن-به-مسئله-مهدویت-در-سینمای-ایرانverifies the award and the themes addressed -contains one of the numerous interviews of the director talking about this very film available online – plenty of other sources exist but I didn’t have the time to check them. e.ux 13:03, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think you didn’t understand what I wrote. I am saying that the page, if not kept, could be redirected to that list, not that it should be kept because it is mentioned there. As for the festival, it may be a “government festival” but if the award is significant it contributes to notability. As for what is currently happening on the Wikipedia in Persian regarding the article about that film, I see you have !voted there but Wikipedias do not have an all-language standard for notability. Many pages are kept per given policies on this wp and deleted on other wp and vice-versa. The film was released, information’s verifiable and redirect to a list of film is the standard alternative to deletion when the director has no page -yet-; I suggested another target but it was the wrong person. e.ux 12:35, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
Comment: The page related to this animation has been created on IMDb. GoldenJDM (talk) 16:25, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
The link to the official website of the Ammar Film Festival regarding this animation’s win.
GoldenJDM (talk) 13:31, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- It is still not notable and clear that this anime is supported by the Iranian government.
- As your imna.ir source explains, this anime mentions Mahdism.
- Hawzahnews (حوزه نیوز) and Sabahkhabar (صباح خبر) are government entities’ related websites.
- This anime is shown in the Friday Prayer. No other artwork but government related is shown in the Friday Prayer.
- If you read Ammar’s website, it clearly says this festival is held in relation of 30 December 2009 Iranian pro-government rallies and you tell me it is not government related? Shkuru Afshar (talk) 19:27, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Which section in that pahe does that say it in? I know awards are used as a criterion for specific notability guidlines but I cannot find one that applies here and I have scanned that page several times without success in finding that. GothicGolem29 (talk) 19:12, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi dear @GothicGolem29.You’re right. The content of the page is a bit complicated. However, the part that mentions awarding the plaque of honor to this film is actually in the very last paragraph of the page. GoldenJDM (talk) 03:36, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the answer. Sadly I still can’t see it in the final paragraph WP:FAILN. GothicGolem29 (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I can confirm the award is mentioned in that paragraph! You are talking about the fact that the award is mentioned in the link provided by GoldenJDM, are you not? (Just to make sure you are not looking for something else elsewhere). You have GoldenJDM’s source and another source I provided -see the second part of my vote, in my reply-. The fact that you cannot access it or read it for some reason is sad indeed but has nothing to do with WP:FAILN (that page mentions what to do “If appropriate sources cannot be found after a good-faith search for them”: that’s exactly the opposite case here… some sources have been found and presented!); again, other sources exist. e.ux 22:32, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- This link takes you directly to that paragraph. GoldenJDM (talk) 16:33, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the answer. Sadly I still can’t see it in the final paragraph WP:FAILN. GothicGolem29 (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi dear @GothicGolem29.You’re right. The content of the page is a bit complicated. However, the part that mentions awarding the plaque of honor to this film is actually in the very last paragraph of the page. GoldenJDM (talk) 03:36, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
