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*::[[List of Survivor (American TV series) contestants]] sounds fine to me. [[User:Svartner|Svartner]] ([[User talk:Svartner|talk]]) 10:01, 25 January 2026 (UTC) |
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*”’Redirect”’ to [[Survivor (American TV series)]] [[User:Agnieszka653|Agnieszka653]] ([[User talk:Agnieszka653|talk]]) 18:39, 30 January 2026 (UTC) |
*”’Redirect”’ to [[Survivor (American TV series)]] [[User:Agnieszka653|Agnieszka653]] ([[User talk:Agnieszka653|talk]]) 18:39, 30 January 2026 (UTC) |
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*:Why not either [[Survivor: Game Changers]] or the [[list of Survivor (American TV series) contestants]]? [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 18:46, 30 January 2026 (UTC) |
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Sure, she won not only Survivor: Game Changers but also The Challenge: USA season 1. However, even winning The Challenge: USA season 2 still hasn’t resulted in restoring the article about Chris Underwood, the winner of Survivor: Edge of Extinction, and hasn’t made him meet WP:GNG and WP:NBASIC. I even discussed this with the closing admin who insisted that reliable secondary sources verify his non-Survivor notability, despite seeing such possibility (link). To this day, not enough reliable secondary sources verifying his notability outside Survivor have been found so far.
Regarding her notability, when seeking reliable sources from the past five years on the Wikipedia Library, her Challenge win was briefly mentioned, but that’s probably it. Furthermore, the USA spinoff itself lasted just two seasons without significant impact on the entertainment field, especially mainstream. If there have been extensive coverage, that would’ve been interviews, which (as primary sources) do not count per WP:GNG.
Even not winning on own debut season may not make a person independently notable, e.g. Tyson Apostol, winner of the first Blood vs. Water season. I even tried finding individual reliable secondary sources (e.g. a non-recap source) verifying her notability as a high school runner (or athlete), an MMA fighter, or a returnee of the Winners at War season without avail.
This article should be redirected to Survivor: Game Changers, her primary winning (Survivor) season, per WP:GNG, WP:PAGEDECIDE and WP:NBASIC. WP:BLP1E and/or WP:BIO1E should apply also if possible. Her win in The Challenge: USA is secondary, IMO. George Ho (talk) 09:45, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, Women, Television, Police, Martial arts, and Iowa. George Ho (talk) 09:45, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Keep I think the coverage is enough for GNG[1][2][3][4], don’t really care about WP:OSE. BIO1E doesn’t apply because she competed in multiple seasons. Additionally, there is no requirement that the coverage be unrelated to the show. Kelob2678 (talk) 11:16, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- These articles still refer her as a Survivor winner. Even one of them is a recap (of one episode), similar to what CBS used to do for the series. Furthermore, another one of them is just previewing her appearance in The Challenge: USA. Can you search for articles about her win in the other show?
BIO1E doesn’t apply because she competed in multiple seasons.
Even appearing in multiple seasons still doesn’t prevent an article from being redirected.Additionally, there is no requirement that the coverage be unrelated to the show.
You just disregard BIO1E as inapplicable. However, without enough significant coverage about her appearance outside Survivor or her first win, I may reluctantly want to apply BIO1E (if BLP1E doesn’t apply). George Ho (talk) 18:27, 24 January 2026 (UTC)- See WP:NOTBLP1E, specifically “One dominant event” section. Regarding The Challenge, I think this source is fine. Kelob2678 (talk) 18:47, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to Survivor (American TV series) – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 09:56, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Why not either (preferably) Survivor: Game Changers or (alternatively) List of Survivor (American TV series) contestants? George Ho (talk) 10:00, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- List of Survivor (American TV series) contestants sounds fine to me. Svartner (talk) 10:01, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Why not either (preferably) Survivor: Game Changers or (alternatively) List of Survivor (American TV series) contestants? George Ho (talk) 10:00, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to Survivor (American TV series) Agnieszka653 (talk) 18:39, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
- Why not either Survivor: Game Changers or the list of Survivor (American TV series) contestants? George Ho (talk) 18:46, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

