Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 2: Difference between revisions

November 2

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Black Jewish members of the Knesset

Nominator’s rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:13, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Russian salon-holders

Nominator’s rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:35, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: essentially, this is the same category as the Category:Salon holders from the Russian Empire, and all articles in the later category, can be placed in the former. The only reason there are two categories, is because one user dislike “Russian” and believe it is more correct to use the term “Russian Empire” – and personally, I don’t know which category name is most correct. Perhaps Category:Russian salon-holders should be a subcategory of the Category:Salon holders from the Russian Empire and not the other way around, I don’t know. But essentially: these two categories are the same category.–Aciram (talk) 22:15, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American Behavioral Healthcare Providers

Nominator’s rationale: Healthcare Providers not categorized this way Gjs238 (talk) 17:16, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you expand on what you mean by that? Crs5827 (talk) 07:21, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

People of Central Asian descent

Nominator’s rationale: In line with the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 October 20#Category:British people of West Asian descent, descent categories should be organized by continent and country, rather than by regions, which are often overlapping and arbitrary. —Hassan697 (talk) 08:28, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Otaku slang

Nominator’s rationale: What falls under “Otaku slang” appears to be WP:SUBJECTIVECAT as there is no strict definition of that. It should be purged of non-Japanese slang and then merged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:09, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Comptrollers in Bangladesh

Nominator’s rationale: Eponymous name blocked by newly created category. Gjs238 (talk) 01:28, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on alt? Also, what should be done with existing category? If done per nom, then I assume it will be a merge rather than a rename?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:06, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Shapeshifters

Nominator’s rationale: Making a category this vague has caused it to be miscategorized. Should be split and these subcategories, along with Category:Fictional shapeshifters, should all be in Category:Shapeshifting. That should enable them to be properly categorized with nothing “outside” a category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:04, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:20th-century German Lutheran nuns

Nominator’s rationale: multimerge. underpopulated and isolated category, also to 20th-century German nuns and 20th-century Lutheran nuns ^SMason_Garrison 23:26, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Comedy drama

Nominator’s rationale: All subcategories under this category use the hyphenated version of the term, “Comedy-drama”. Matching the main category name could improve parity and create a better precedent for article ledes moving forward, for which I’ve also started a Requested Move on the mainspace article at Talk:Comedy drama#Requested move 25 October 2025. You may find more of my arguments for and against this there. Drunk Experiter (she/her) (talk) 05:43, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anthropophagy

Nominator’s rationale: Anthropophage is a specific member of a race of cannibals in Shakespeare’s plays, a neologism, and should not be used to refer to human-eaters in general, making this category misleading and unnecessary. It’s possible Man-eating animal and its category may have to be merged into Category:Carnivory. The subcategory “mythological anthropophages” should be renamed “Mythological human-eaters” accordingly. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:53, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose – The words did not originate with Shakespeare, and the assertion that it “should not be used to refer to human-eaters in general” seems unfounded. OED defines anthropophagus/anthropophage as “A person who eats human flesh; a cannibal. Also: a member of any human-like race of creatures said to eat human flesh.” And anthropophagy as “The practice of eating human flesh; cannibalism.” It can also be used more generally to refer to the eating of human flesh by other creatures. Our Anthropophagy dab page provides a number of meanings. The current names are fine and no reasoning has been given as to why the first category should be deleted rather than renamed. If there is a better name that is more commonly understood, I wouldn’t be opposed to that. Mclay1 (talk) 09:34, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  It seems by all respects to be a neologism, but even if we assume it isn’t, both the OED definition and Encyclopedia Britannica calls it synonymous with cannibalism rather than the eating of humans by non-humans. Either way, the same result occurs, the word should not be used at all on Wikipedia because we already have Category:Cannibalism and Category:Fictional cannibals. Its meaning is unacceptably vague to be used as such a specific thing as non-humans eating humans. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. It’s an old word (far older than “cannibalism”, in fact) and has always been used for “eating humans”, as that is what it means. Hence it’s a parent category of Category:Human cannibalism and also encompasses animals and fictitious beings who eat humans, all logical enough. Gawaon (talk) 11:48, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Whether it’s older than cannibalism doesn’t matter; it’s not the common name for it.

  As for the argument that it encompasses all animals and fictitious beings who eat humans, that’s a claim made with zero evidence. As said above, the sources show that it is synonymous with cannibalism. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:48, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Category:Anthropophagy to Category:Cannibalism. Anthropophages are either synonymous to cannibals or a specific subset of it. In the former case it is a matter of WP:OVERLAPCAT, in the latter case the articles in the category do not describe the subjects as anthropophages per se. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:45, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mythological hematophages

Nominator’s rationale: “Hematophage” is a scientific term for an actual bloodsucking animal. This risks conflating legend with scientific fact, as drinking blood for nutrients is different than consuming magical “vital essence” of a person. I propose moving it to a non-scientific name. This would also imply removal from Category:Hematophages, which is only for real animals. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nigerian local language

Nominator’s rationale: merge, overlapping scope, nearly all languages in the tree of Category:Languages of Nigeria are local languages. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Legendary creatures in classical mythology

Nominator’s rationale: Clear WP:NARROWCAT with only 2 subcategories. Possibly dual merge to Category:Characters in classical mythology. Not sure it belongs in “European legendary creatures”. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:39, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: To better reflect what is inside the categories – usually one award given by the club or alike, not categories with awards given per club. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:51, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I see some support for renaming the last one, hence the third relist (instead of a no consensus close). One last try, but of course open to anyone closing early.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:38, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional monarchies

Nominator’s rationale: Seems to be WP:NARROWCAT with nothing specifically in it that wouldn’t fit in the other categories. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:56, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional republics

Nominator’s rationale: Has only one redirect and no pages. WP:NARROWCAT applies and it should be deleted. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:08, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional females by genre

Nominator’s rationale: Dual merge to both the suggested category and Category:Fictional characters by genre per WP:NARROWCAT. Overcategorization by a blocked user with only 2 subcategories, one of which doesn’t belong here (not all magical girl fiction characters are female; see also, Tuxedo Mask, etc.). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:05, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Straight lines defined for a triangle

Nominator’s rationale: In geometry, a line refers to a straight line by default. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:14, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily, especially for non-native speakers of English. A circle or another curve is a line as well. The article Line (geometry) says straight line in the very first sentence. There’s enough room for the full name, so I prefer precision. Tarnoob (talk) 13:31, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]