Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 24: Difference between revisions

Nominator’s rationale: The Goodreads Choice Awards is a popularity contest voted on by users of the social media platform Goodreads, property of Amazon Inc., and is based on the millions of books added, rated, and reviewed on Goodreads each year. 15 books are awarded each year in 15 different genre categories. The first category groups authors who wrote the winning books. However, their biography articles do not treat this award as a defining characteristic of their careers or longterm significance, generally listing it with other honours. It is not a defining trait for the large majority of its notable recipients (WP:OCAWARD), as evidenced by reliable sources discussing each. The second category groups books that won a Goodreads Choice Award, which is similarly WP:NONDEFINING because being selected as one of their 15 different “readers’ favorites” each year is not a major part of the literary significance of a given work. The contents of both categories are already listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. Οἶδα (talk) 09:09, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: I believe the editor who created this has things ‘backwards’. The “2016 US House of Representatives election in Louisiana” isn’t a subcategory of “Clay Higgins”, Clay Higgens was named in the article specified – and the same for all the other categories. Haven’t found specific guidance on this, but generally it seems that only particularly notable people have subcategories, such as Nancy Pelosi, Mike Johnson, etc. With 400+ members of the house in any given cycle, it seems unnecessary that each one should be a category unto themselves. Please correct me if I’m in error. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 05:46, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 05:07, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 04:07, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Merge all three into one. (I suspect that I used the wrong template for this, but I’ve never before proposed a three-way merger.) I want to see a single category holding what’s now in all three of these categories.

Because the Central African Empire had only one emperor, and because it never had any other monarchy in its history, these three essentially have the same scope — Emperor Bokassa I was a member of the House of Bokassa, and his house comprises all royalty in the country’s history. If we have any articles on tribal kings, they’re not here, and we probably should have a separate category that distinguishes them from the monarch of the entire country; also, the parent for “CA royalty” shows that it means royalty from what’s now the CAR, not royalty from all countries in the central region of Africa. Obviously the House includes people other than the Emperor, but we can simply put him into Category:Emperors in Africa; I don’t think there’s a need to have a distinct category for him, when we’re absolutely certain that nobody will write any other articles that belong in this category, and it’s almost 100% certain that no other emperors will exist in the future. Sometimes it makes sense to have tiny categories when a parent is 100% subdivided, but Kanta Kotal is already in “Emperors in Africa” rather than in a subcategory, so we wouldn’t be breaking an existing 100%-subdivided status. Nyttend (talk) 02:52, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PS, we typically would expect to have every head of state in his country’s heads-of-state category, but since Bokassa was President of Central Africa before he named himself emperor, he’s already in Category:Heads of state of the Central African Republic regardless of the imperial categories. Nyttend (talk) 02:57, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge all three into the House of Bokassa Category. If we were to keep the base Category I think it would need yo be renamed Caregory:Emperors of the Central African Empire, “Central Africa” is too widely used to refer to a broad area, and the specific country is at an article titled Central African Republic, it is one of six existing country articles we feel we need to tag on Republic to. I do wonder if Central African Republic politicians should be renamed to Category:Politicians from the Central African Republic, I think it would be a slightly better name, also Category:People from the Central African Republic, etc. However that is a discussion for another day. For now I think we only need the one Category. Although I am wondering if Royalty of the Central African Empire might be the best Category name to end up with. Right now the royalty Category has only 2 entries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:39, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Alt merge Category:Emperors of Central Africa to Category:Emperors in Africa, delete Category:Central African royalty and keep Category:House of Bokassa. The middle category does not have to be upmerged because Category:House of Bokassa is part of Category:African royal families, hence part of royalty. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]