”’Temporary semi-protection:”’ Persistent [[WP:VAND|vandalism]] – Requesting protection for both this page and [[iPhone 17 Pro]] due to an anon repeatedly targeting both pages since mid-October. iPhone 17 Pro was previously protected for one week. [[User:Iiii I I I|Iiii I I I]] ([[User talk:Iiii I I I|talk]]) 04:39, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
”’Temporary semi-protection:”’ Persistent [[WP:VAND|vandalism]] – Requesting protection for both this page and [[iPhone 17 Pro]] due to an anon repeatedly targeting both pages since mid-October. iPhone 17 Pro was previously protected for one week. [[User:Iiii I I I|Iiii I I I]] ([[User talk:Iiii I I I|talk]]) 04:39, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
:[[File:Pictogram voting support.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] ”'[[Wikipedia:Protection policy#Semi-protection|Semi-protected]]”’ for a period of ”’10 days”’, after which the page will be automatically unprotected.<!– Template:RFPP#semi –> <b>[[User:Runningonbrains|<span style=”color:#000″>Running</span><span style=”color:#00F”>On</span><span style=”color:#080″>Brains</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Runningonbrains|talk]])</sup></b> 19:00, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Requesting protection for both this page and iPhone 17 Pro due to an anon repeatedly targeting both pages since mid-October. iPhone 17 Pro was previously protected for one week. Iiii I I I (talk) 04:39, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing – Persistent removal of sourced content by at least three users (two of them anonymous) about the subject reportedly being fired allegedly due to overseas tripped. The claim is sourced and not an WP:OR on part of any user. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 10:49, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Wikipedia:Administrators’ noticeboard/Edit warring. The user requiring protection is the one making wrong edits not just against the help page he himself linked here (“/h/ is usually dropped” means that the rule is dropping it so any exception isn’t decided by him but must be sourced) but also without providing any sources on his behalf; also note that this user’s behaviour (“it’s like this because I say so, period”) caused him an indefinite ban by ArbCom in Italian Wikipedia. ~2025-32055-48 (talk) 12:09, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Copy-pasting from here) If the /h/ sound is listed as optional, it’s because the symbol should be used when the sound is optional. Your edits mean pronouncing the /h/ is wrong, not optional. Provide a source for that or stop vandalizing Wikipedia. Regards. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 12:12, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Either in every single case of names and words containing <h> and transcribed in IPA linking to Help:IPA/Italian we add the sound /h/ (but such a folly itself should be strongly sourced), or it means that “you” are a source yourself to tell us where /h/ should be added and where it shouldn’t. Even the (unsourced) sentence “/h/ is usually dropped” on which you base your argument doesn’t mean that <h> could be either pronounced or not pronounced in any case, just that normally it’s never pronounced but there’re cases where one might choose to pronounce it. An example: “Heidi” might be pronounced both with or without /h/ (source), while “hotel” can be pronounced only without it (source); the source is one of the Italian pronunciation dictionaries contained in the help page. Can you provide any reliable source to prove that Hack and Mahmood are exceptions to the general rule that /h/ is silent in Italian like I did for the examples above? ~2025-32055-48 (talk) 13:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
“/h/ is usually dropped” doesn’t mean “/h/ is always dropped, must never be pronounced and should not be used in transcriptions.” In fact, quite the opposite and you can’t prove otherwise. Also, not the place to discuss this. Stop vandalizing Wikipedia. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 13:12, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Being told “Stop vandalizing Wikipedia.” by a user who’s been banned by an ArbCom deliberation becuase he continued accusing admins to abuse their powers and to violate the rules they should protect is quite funny. While it’s quite ironic that in all articles about Italian in Wikipedia is said that the letter <h> is silent and in none of them is said that it might always be either pronounced or not. ~2025-32055-48 (talk) 13:40, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(In other words, the rule is that the phoneme is always there, but since it’s not a phoneme of Italian many speakers drop it. It’s not a case by case thing, it always works the same. Prove that “Hack” has NO /h/ phoneme or just stop it. Thanks.) ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 13:15, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We’re all still waiting for sources proving that Hack and Mahmood can be pronounced with /h/. I’ve provided a source saying that Heidi can be pronounced with /h/ while hotel can0t be pronounced with /h/, don’t tell us that you can’t do the same. ~2025-32055-48 (talk) 13:40, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As you know it’s the general rule, it applies to all foreign /h/ unless you can prove otherwise, which you can’t because you’re only here to vandalize. Hence why the page should be protected. Bye. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 13:57, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you insist, please try answering this question: should the IPA of “hotel” contain the /h/ or not in Italian? Just say “yes” or “no”, both answers will disprove any thesis of yours! And again, being told “you’re only here to vandalize” by a user who’s been banned by an ArbCom deliberation because he clearly isn’t here to build an encyclopedy is quite funny. ~2025-32055-48 (talk) 14:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And again, bringing up the fact that I was blocked by patronizing admins on itwiki who literally act the way you described, while having the powers to ban anyone they dislike, does not help and is irrelevant to enwiki where sysops are serious and care about the project. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 12:15, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
“patronizing admins on itwiki…having the powers to ban anyone they dislike”. I’m finished, Your Honour. I’ve added the information about your ArbCom ban just to let admins know who’s really the user who asked them for a page protection. You know, I wouldn’t want them to be deceived by you and to believe that you’re sincerely here to build an encyclopedy (which is the reason you’ve been banned in Italian Wikipedia)! ~2025-32055-48 (talk) 13:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
