Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 August 22: Difference between revisions

Unnecessary wrapper for Template:Authority control. Can be replaced with {{Authority control|show=arts}} — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:47, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Replace per nomination. No need for a separate template when one AC template can do and show the same information and links for an article. Just add a parameter to the main template. —WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:52, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. A cosmetic bot would be a waste of effort. Also, {{ACArt}} would need to be included. Furthermore, the specification of |country= differs from that in {{Authority control}} (“will only show” vs “extra”), although that may be a mistake. David Brooks (talk) 20:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  For clarification, {{ACArt|country=ES}} has the same effect at {{ACArt|show=ES}}, and both are the same as {{Authority control|show=Arts, ES}} — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:26, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Neither, it seems : Template:Authority control shows informations absent in Template:Authority control (arts) and vice versa.=> Solution : please create a template that would include both types of information.–JoSloane (talk) 09:17, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  That is incorrect. The authority control template shows all identifiers and the arts template shows a subset of these — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:22, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Question Didn’t we !vote to delete this in July at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2025_July_17#Module:Authority_control_(arts)? I don’t understand the difference between module and template. Thanks in advance. —WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:03, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Many templates are wrappers for Lua code. Template:Authority control is one example, the functionality is actually implemented in Module:Authority control. If you look at the template’s source you’ll just see the module invocation. Module:Authority control (arts) was a fork of the Lua code itself. Template:Authority control (arts) is a wrapper for Template:Authority control. Hope this helps, I understand how this might be confusing. Antibabelic (talk) 09:45, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  If that means that two different versions of the code are both being maintained, then I would replace to lessen the need to keep things in synch.–Northernhenge (talk) 11:02, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  No, there is only one version of code since Module:Authority control (arts) was deleted. Antibabelic (talk) 06:31, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Replace. I think it’s worth running the bot. Unnecessary layers of abstraction can build up like debt. If it’s not paid off occasionally, it can start to become a problem for ongoing operations. Having fewer layers also reduces the chances that a change to the underlying code will cause an unexpected bug. — Beland (talk) 00:26, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• weak keep, although it is better to have one template instead of two, changing 16k articles doesn’t seem worth it. Frietjes (talk) 15:40, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as Pppery.–Photographer’s Box (talk) 23:52, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete/Replace – this isn’t needed, it just adds extra complexity that can confuse editors that don’t know the back-story here. I can offer help with doing a bot replace using Pi bot if that’s useful. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:03, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]