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:** (this line is my own research but using silver livres instead of gold livres, i find a sword is worth 600 * 4,45 * 1.70 = ”4 540 euros”) |
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:If you reckon we should put one of these conversion in the article, I would be happy to discuss as I am unsure what to use or not in this case. [[User:JustinGanimard|JustinGanimard]] ([[User talk:JustinGanimard|talk]]) 11:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC) |
:If you reckon we should put one of these conversion in the article, I would be happy to discuss as I am unsure what to use or not in this case. [[User:JustinGanimard|JustinGanimard]] ([[User talk:JustinGanimard|talk]]) 11:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC) |
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::Another acknowledged limit of Fressin’s methodology is that it’s makes sense for evaluating personal wealth but not for purchasing power. |
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::Wikipedia has its own [[Consumer price index]] inflation template but its not usable between 1789 and 1798. If we use 1789 instead of 1792, we get ”'{{inflation|FR|600|1789|fmt=eq|cursign=€}}”’. [[User:JustinGanimard|JustinGanimard]] ([[User talk:JustinGanimard|talk]]) 11:56, 14 December 2025 (UTC) |
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The swords “were lacking a point,” yet the illustration clearly shows a standard two-handed sword, point and all. Can someone clear this up? Xiphe 02:52, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
The article mentions 1540 as the earliest date, yet the photograph shows a sword from 1484! 145.253.2.29 (talk) 14:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have serious doubts the sword depicted dates from 1484, but I have to admit this seems to be what the label suggests. We need more and better sources. —dab (𒁳) 19:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
What would be the reason for them? 70.50.4.186 (talk) 01:56, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- I’m not sure about the veracity of it, but in the manga Innocent these swords are portrayed, and the holes are said to whistle when there’s bad edge alignment in the cut 185.185.55.72 (talk) 03:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
How much was “600 livres” worth in modern conversion? RJFJR (talk) 02:54, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, interesting rabbit hole you raised there, here are my findings:
- I found a French online converter (https://convertisseur-monnaie-ancienne.fr/?Y=1792&E=&L=600&S=0&D=0) by Thomas Fressin (an author referenced on google scholar (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=UtSk4cwAAAAJ&hl=fr)
- it should be noted that by reproducing his calculations on my own, i find very different results
- Fressin’s data table shows that a 1792 livre is minted with 0.290 g of fine gold (seemingly based on row 724 of the book, and consistent with other sources i found)
- goldpricez shows a gram of fine gold is currently worth about 117.83 euros
- => a sword is worth 600 * 0.290 * 117.83 = 20 500 euros
- (this line is my own research but using silver livres instead of gold livres, i find a sword is worth 600 * 4,45 * 1.70 = 4 540 euros)
- If you reckon we should put one of these conversion in the article, I would be happy to discuss as I am unsure what to use or not in this case. JustinGanimard (talk) 11:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
- Another acknowledged limit of Fressin’s methodology is that it’s makes sense for evaluating personal wealth but not for purchasing power.
- Wikipedia has its own Consumer price index inflation template but its not usable between 1789 and 1798. If we use 1789 instead of 1792, we get equivalent to €1,671 in 2022. JustinGanimard (talk) 11:56, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

