Talk:Santa Maria in Trastevere: Difference between revisions

Is the dedication actually to Mary Theotokos? If it’s just the common sliding logic of “This is dedicated to Mary, whom we call Theotokos”, then the article could say it’s “the first church dedicated to Mary Regina Coeli“, with equally blurred sense.–Wetman (talk) 07:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any evidence behind “Beyond My Ken moved page Santa Maria in Trastevere to Basilica of Our Lady in Trastevere: English commonname”? I am incredulous that this is actually the most common name in English WP:RS. There should have been a proper move process. Johnbod (talk) 16:16, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There’s nothing wrong with doing a WP:BOLD page move.

The article itself gives this name as the English one, and the article name before I moved it was Italian, not English. If there’s a more common English name, then by all means move it to that, but this Is English Wikipedia, so the name ought to be in English, not another language. BMK (talk) 16:58, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, the name should be the most commonly used in English, whatever language that is in (you know, just like Los Angeles). A glance at Category:Roman_Catholic_churches_in_Rome shows that Italian church names (other than cathedrals and a few others) should not be translated. A google search would show that English sources mostly don’t use this form – tourist and art history ones very rarely, but church ones sometimes. Johnbod (talk) 17:09, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you feel that strongly about it — and I don’t — just move it back! Or, you could open an RM discussion and see what other editors think. BMK (talk) 17:19, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can’t just move it back, I need an admin to do so, which is why undiscussed moves are a bad idea. I will do so – if you want to then open an RM, that’s up to you. But at the moment no valid arguments for the move have been produced. Johnbod (talk) 17:27, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, you can just move it back, without an admin’s assistance. Try it. BMK (talk) 17:29, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See?

You’re very welsome. BMK (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone is out there, I am a rookie asking for help. I am reading a wonderful book that has several pages on Santa Maria in Trastevere: June Hager, Pilgrimage, Cassell Paperbacks, 1999. ISBN–1841880671. The book contains also good info on many Roman Catholic churches in Rome. Philipbence (talk) 01:34, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2023/05/11/mysteries-of-use-and-reuse-recycling-beauty-ingrid-rowland/
Only an excerpt is available to non-subscribers. Hmm. I wonder if we have access thru the Wiki Library?
Anyway,
“…. when Pope Innocent II decided to remodel the venerable church of Santa Maria in Trastevere in 1140, he borrowed from the monuments of ancient Rome with deliberate and spectacular intent. For him, these tangible traces of another era were charged with meaning, majesty, and beauty, telling the story of a mighty empire that once spanned all three continents of the world he knew but had been brought to heel by a new religion, toppled by invaders, reduced to a territory in central Italy, and now, in the twelfth century, was looking hopefully toward better times.” Pete Tillman (talk) 15:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Her article is nominally a review of “Recycling Beauty,” an exhibition at the Fondazione Prada, Milan, November 17, 2022–February 27, 2023

As is the NYRB’s custom, the article extends well beyond that. I’ll take a look at the whole thing when I get a :chance. –Pete Tillman (talk) 15:53, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]