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==September 2025==

[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please be careful about what you say to people. Some remarks can easily be misinterpreted, or viewed as [[Wikipedia:Harassment|harassment]]. Wikipedia is a supportive environment, where contributors should feel comfortable and safe while editing. Thank you.<!– Template:Uw-harass2 –> [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABob_Gollum&diff=1311217931&oldid=1311142734][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hipal&diff=prev&oldid=1311226823][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PragerU&diff=prev&oldid=1311374378][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ricardo_Duchesne&diff=1311376893&oldid=1311376632][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PragerU&diff=prev&oldid=1311378352] –[[User:Hipal|Hipal]] ([[User talk:Hipal|talk]]) 00:58, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

:I fully agree. It is a concern that I have had occasion to raise with you on previous occasions.

:The fact remains that you are deleting the work of others without giving adequate justification for doing so, and your responses when they raise concerns with you are neither supportive nor substantive.

:A wikipedia editor should be trying to add to or clarify the body of knowledge on wikipedia, not censoring it. As you say, doing so on a repeated basis without willingness to discuss can easily be misinterpreted, or viewed as harassment. [[User:Bob Gollum|Bob Gollum]] ([[User talk:Bob Gollum#top|talk]]) 01:08, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

Here’s wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, Bob Gollum! I see that you’ve already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may still benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:

If you have questions, just use this link to ask for help; a volunteer will visit you here shortly!

Need some ideas of what kind of things need doing? Try the Task Center.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! Hipal (talk) 18:15, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you reverted my edits on several lists of people, including List of comics creators appearing in comics. The entries that you re-added do not belong on this list. Wikipedia has a guideline called WP:LISTPEOPLE which says that every entry on a list of people must either have its own article or it must have multiple independent and reliable sources that provide evidence of notability. You incorrectly labeled my edits as vandalism when I was simply trying to remove entries that don’t belong. Furthermore, I am concerned because it appears you have been following my edits to other lists of people (like List of Chinese Indonesians) and reverting my changes there too. Systematically following a particular user’s edits and reverting them without a clear and justifiable reason based in policy can be perceived as WP:WIKIHOUNDING, which is a serious harassment violation. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does appear that you are vandalizing multiple articles, and it seemed appropriate to correct that, and I added references or links to address the concern that prompted your deletions. But you are misstating the WP:LISTPEOPLE guideline, which only says that the existence of a wikipedia article or reliable secondary sources (not necessarily multiple) creates a presumption of notability. And you deleted significant people from the list who meet even the criteria you apply, which are more stringent than Wikipedia’s criteria. I have written more about this on the article’s talk page. Bob Gollum (talk) 01:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest reviewing WP:Vandalism, because it is clear from your usage of the term that you don’t understand what it is. Vandalism does not include any good-faith attempt to improve Wikipedia, and I am certainly trying to improve Wikipedia. Sometimes improvement involves cutting out chaff. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bob Gollum. A very belated welcome to Wikipedia. I see you’ve been editing Wikipedia for some time now, though infrequently. I hope you don’t mind if I share some of my thoughts on starting out as a new editor on Wikipedia: If I could get editors in your situation to follow just one piece of advice, it would be this: Learn Wikipedia by working only on non-contentious topics until you have a feel for the normal editing process and the policies that usually come up when editing casually. You’ll find editing to be fun, easy, and rewarding. The rare disputes are resolved quickly and easily in collaboration.

Working on biographical information about living persons is far more difficult. Wikipedia’s Biographies of living persons policy requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

If you have a relationship with the topics you want to edit, then you will need to review Wikipedia’s Conflict of interest policy, which may require you to disclose your relationship and restrict your editing depending upon how you are affiliated with the subject matter. Regardless, editing in a manner that promotes an entity or viewpoint over others can appear to be detrimental to the purpose of Wikipedia and the neutrality required in articles.

Some topic areas within Wikipedia have special editing restrictions that apply to all editors. It’s best to avoid these topics until you are extremely familiar with all relevant policies and guidelines.

If you work from reliable, independent sources, you shouldn’t go far wrong. WP:RSP and WP:RSN are helpful in determining if a source is reliable.

If you find yourself in a disagreement with another editor, it’s best to discuss the matter on the relevant talk page.

I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. —Hipal (talk) 18:25, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Ricardo Duchesne. Thank you. —Hipal (talk) 17:32, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You will have to be more specific; I have not added any poorly referenced information to the article. I am concerned about your ongoing vandalism of the article, deleting relevant information with minimal or meaningless reasons given. Bob Gollum (talk) 03:18, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your concerns appear to ignore both content and behavioral policy. BLP is very clear on both. —Hipal (talk) 16:10, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your deletions have nothing to do with BLP. Can you please explain them? Bob Gollum (talk) 22:23, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please be careful about what you say to people. Some remarks can easily be misinterpreted, or viewed as harassment. Wikipedia is a supportive environment, where contributors should feel comfortable and safe while editing. Thank you. [1][2][3][4][5] —Hipal (talk) 00:58, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree. It is a concern that I have had occasion to raise with you on previous occasions.

The fact remains that you are deleting the work of others without giving adequate justification for doing so, and your responses when they raise concerns with you are neither supportive nor substantive.

A wikipedia editor should be trying to add to or clarify the body of knowledge on wikipedia, not censoring it. As you say, doing so on a repeated basis without willingness to discuss can easily be misinterpreted, or viewed as harassment. Bob Gollum (talk) 01:08, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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