User talk:LordCollaboration: Difference between revisions

I’m not joking. You could help more than one person here. Your work has improved because you made the good choices. Consider it. BusterD (talk) 14:57, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Start by doing some reading. Visit the user’s talk page and talk to them like a normal person. Maybe tell them something about yourself. Maybe talk about when you got in trouble but you’re still here. Talk about your willingness to consider my offer. Why would you be helping anyway? Ask yourself first. Agreeing isn’t all ribbons and rainbows (for either of you). I suspect we’re dealing with an actual human being, not an LLM. But if I cut the editor loose and they go back to abusive behavior, I’ll have my own choices. One way or the other, I owe you a favor for merely considering it. Not sure exactly how we’ll keep track. Wikipedia thanks you. I’ll give you a few hours to think about it. Glad to answer questions. BusterD (talk) 15:12, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, User:CoffeeCrumbs has offered to help as well if everyone likes the idea. Might take some pressure off everybody. BusterD (talk) 15:55, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Buster, thanks for encouraging me on this, I think this would be good for both me and Baangla if it works out. I read through that article and made a post on their talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Baangla#Mentoring LordCollaboration (talk) 15:55, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are a natural. Honest, direct. I’m impressed. BusterD (talk) 15:59, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I could not be more pleased how you’ve done here. Now just stay on today’s lesson. Do the WP:5P reading as well. Let’s not talk about editing. Let’s talk about learning something new. For now, I have some huskies requiring immediate service. BusterD (talk) 16:30, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much BusterD, I will focus on that for the day. Have a good walk! LordCollaboration (talk) 16:35, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good day! Think about a subject matter which would interest both Baangla and yourself and make it a project for the two of you. Start with an existing stub if possible. Talk to me about it here. Then mosey over to their talk and look at what we’ve accomplished in a few hours. If you agree in principle, I’ll create a signature section where all three of our sigs appear on the same line. At that point, it’s entirely on all three of us. BusterD (talk) 11:57, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing: if this ends badly, it’s not anybody’s fault. Accept that possibility now. I’ve seen some pretty gruesome and disappointing stuff. BusterD (talk) 14:42, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think Lanai/related pages would be a good start? Definitely not a stub, but seems like we could probably find some more recent information to add to it or recent topics. I wanted to give them leeway in deciding. And thanks for steering away from contentious topics. LordCollaboration (talk) 15:14, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Low-profile stubs are excellent locations where a mentorship may work without interruption. I’m sure there are many Hawaii-related stubs to work on. As a long-time user in good standing, you have access to WP:The Wikipedia Library. You will find a mountain of useful sources there, available for free. I have a newspapers.com account via the library so I can help if you need it.

Immediately under the Wikipedia logo in the upper left corner of every page, there’s a link called Random article. I highly recommend this method of finding some unusual subjects for improvement. While many subject matter WP:Portals are now deleted, Portal:Hawaii is active, so that might be a place to browse island-related topics. A nice category tree and many links. As it turns out, I lived in Honolulu when I was a child. BusterD (talk) 15:50, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added some stuff on your sites article. This is an excellent pagespace choice and gives you both work entirely away from normal conflict zones. This will become more difficult for both of you once you begin to do more reading. The culture of the islands’ peoples is arguably thousands of years old. The native plants, animals, and humans of pre-exposure Hawaii were a unique independently-arising natural culture. Island people (sea-going people) are different for non-obvious anthropological reasons. What has happened to Hawaii in the last 225 years constitutes a huge loss for humanity, IMHO. Great Britain and the new U.S. were both anxious to stake colonial claims, and much of the original society/culture was lost. I’m glad Niihau is kept largely restricted, but while the islands today are a tourist’s paradise, (speaking as someone who lived within walking distance of this site when he was in 5th grade), what has been lost culturally was enormous. BusterD (talk) 13:18, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BusterD: How many people in Hawaii still follow the pre-Christian religions? What were those religions called? Apart from Filipinos and Japs people of Japanese heritage, were there Native Americans or Native Hawaiians there before? What happened to them now? Did they use witchcraft? Could they heal witchcraft related issues?-Baangla (talk) 13:43, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide reliable sources for the above, so that I can add them to the respective articles?-Baangla (talk) 13:54, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Google is thattaway. I threw you some bones, I’m not going to be your research intern. BusterD (talk) 14:13, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

“Japs” is an inappropriate way to refer to people of Japanese heritage. When we make a pubic mistake, it is wise to strike through (<s></s>) which would look like japs. On any Wikipedia, we should avoid using disparaging terms without specific reason. Lenny Bruce once made a famous point about utilizing a derogatory term repeatedly as a means to disarm the violence of the term. But on Wikipedia we should avoid the sort of BOLD which got Mr. Bruce thrown in jail. I’m going to ask you, Baangla, to strikethough the offending term. I’m going to insist upon a response. BusterD (talk) 14:00, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are not required to answer but how old are you, Baangla? The reason I boldly ask is that you have been in trouble largely because of the lack of (forgive me) maturity demonstrated in your edits. In your exchanges with me and LordC you seem to be interested in witchcraft and ghosts. You seem to toss insulting epithets casually. These seem like (forgive me) immature behaviors to display on a highly-visible planetary platform. I do not disparage the young in heart, but I caution Baangla to demonstrate more maturity in behavior when literally anyone in the planet can read what you’ve written (even years from today) and justifiably object. BusterD (talk) 14:12, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I am sorry!-Baangla (talk) 14:12, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What’s a bit ironic is that I think in some ways “witchcraft” and “ghosts” represent a western glance of the authentic social and religious views of native islanders. What I complain about being lost was the songs, the stories, the beliefs of pre-exposure island culture. So we’re actually talking about the same things, but using different metaphors. BusterD (talk) 14:17, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good job on the striking through, btw. Everyone sticks their keyboard in their mouth occasionally. It’s an excellent idea to know how to redact one’s own words. Don’t ever strikethrough somebody else’s words. That’s a bad action. A strikethrough represents a self-withdrawal of a word or words (where a removal may appear to be covering up for an error). BusterD (talk) 14:18, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hollywood movies use the word, so I did not know that it was offensive. I am just retired.-Baangla (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks BusterD, and thank you Baangla for striking the comment. I probably won’t have much time for research until the weekend, but will definitely get on that. LordCollaboration (talk) 15:16, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]