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::::::::https://www.springfieldchamber.com/a-man-with-stainless-standards-paul-mueller-company/ [[User:Muellermedia|Muellermedia]] ([[User talk:Muellermedia#top|talk]]) 14:01, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::None of these three establish that your company is [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]; this is all coverage of routine activities and an interview. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::{{Non-administrator comment}} Hi ~~son~~, apologies if I’m wrong but I’m wondering if you asked AI/LLM to write that for you? AI usually can’t understand that articles you’ve been asked to read (blue links) and your response looks like the phrasing that chatbots use.

:::::::::{{Non-administrator comment}} Hi , apologies if I’m wrong but I’m wondering if you asked AI/LLM to write that for you? AI usually can’t understand that articles you’ve been asked to read (blue links) and your response looks like the phrasing that chatbots use.

:::::::::Please read through all the blue-linked articles you’ve been given, they’re really important for you to understand what you’ve been asked to do. Once you’ve done that, try to answer the question again ”in your own words”.

:::::::::It won’t be easy to get unblocked, you’ve caused disruption to the encyclopedia so you’ve got to prove to an admin that you won’t continue to do that. [[User:Blue-Sonnet|Blue Sonnet]] ([[User talk:Blue-Sonnet|talk]]) 07:22, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because it has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Also, your username gives the impression that the account represents a business, organisation, group, website, or role, which is against the username policy.

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This user is asking to be unblocked to request a change in username.

StainlessSteelEditor 40 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Hello,
I’m requesting an unblock of my account, Muellermedia. I created the account with the intent to eventually draft a Wikipedia article for Paul Mueller Company, where I work. I understand that this may present as a conflict of interest, even though I was not specifically paid or directed to create the article, and I drafted content in good faith using neutral language and a mix of sources.

The content I drafted was neutral in tone, focused primarily on the company’s history, manufacturing locations, and industries served. While some material came from the company website, I also referenced independent sources where available, and intended to improve it further before ever considering submission.

The draft was created in my sandbox and not submitted for publication. I understand that any company-related contributions should go through the proper disclosure and review channels, and I’m happy to follow those going forward.

I did not publish the article to the mainspace, I only used the “publish” function in the sandbox as a way to save my work while drafting.

If unblocked, I will avoid direct edits on any topics where I have a conflict and instead suggest edits via Talk pages or appropriate processes.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Administrators should consider discussing any unblock with the blocking administrator (see the blocking policy).

If you ask the blocking administrator to comment on this request, please replace this template with the following:

{{unblock-un on hold | 1=blocking administrator | 2=StainlessSteelEditor_40 | 3=Hello,
I’m requesting an unblock of my account, Muellermedia. I created the account with the intent to eventually draft a Wikipedia article for Paul Mueller Company, where I work. I understand that this may present as a conflict of interest, even though I was not specifically paid or directed to create the article, and I drafted content in good faith using neutral language and a mix of sources. 
The content I drafted was neutral in tone, focused primarily on the company’s history, manufacturing locations, and industries served. While some material came from the company website, I also referenced independent sources where available, and intended to improve it further before ever considering submission. 
The draft was created in my sandbox and not submitted for publication. I understand that any company-related contributions should go through the proper disclosure and review channels, and I’m happy to follow those going forward. 
I did not publish the article to the mainspace, I only used the “publish” function in the sandbox as a way to save my work while drafting. 
If unblocked, I will avoid direct edits on any topics where I have a conflict and instead suggest edits via Talk pages or appropriate processes. 
Thank you for your time and consideration. | 4=~~~~}}

If you accept the unblock request, replace this template with the following:

{{unblock-un reviewed | 1=StainlessSteelEditor_40 | reason=Hello,
I’m requesting an unblock of my account, Muellermedia. I created the account with the intent to eventually draft a Wikipedia article for Paul Mueller Company, where I work. I understand that this may present as a conflict of interest, even though I was not specifically paid or directed to create the article, and I drafted content in good faith using neutral language and a mix of sources. 
The content I drafted was neutral in tone, focused primarily on the company’s history, manufacturing locations, and industries served. While some material came from the company website, I also referenced independent sources where available, and intended to improve it further before ever considering submission. 
The draft was created in my sandbox and not submitted for publication. I understand that any company-related contributions should go through the proper disclosure and review channels, and I’m happy to follow those going forward. 
I did not publish the article to the mainspace, I only used the “publish” function in the sandbox as a way to save my work while drafting. 
If unblocked, I will avoid direct edits on any topics where I have a conflict and instead suggest edits via Talk pages or appropriate processes. 
Thank you for your time and consideration. | accept=Allowing username change to requested username. Please select an option from [[Wikipedia:Changing username]] and file a request as soon as possible to avoid re-blocking. ~~~~}}

If you decline the unblock request, replace this template with the following, replacing {{subst:Decline reason here}} with any specific rationale. If you do not edit the text after “decline=”, a default reason why the request was declined will be inserted.

{{unblock-un reviewed | 1=StainlessSteelEditor_40 | reason=Hello,
I’m requesting an unblock of my account, Muellermedia. I created the account with the intent to eventually draft a Wikipedia article for Paul Mueller Company, where I work. I understand that this may present as a conflict of interest, even though I was not specifically paid or directed to create the article, and I drafted content in good faith using neutral language and a mix of sources. 
The content I drafted was neutral in tone, focused primarily on the company’s history, manufacturing locations, and industries served. While some material came from the company website, I also referenced independent sources where available, and intended to improve it further before ever considering submission. 
The draft was created in my sandbox and not submitted for publication. I understand that any company-related contributions should go through the proper disclosure and review channels, and I’m happy to follow those going forward. 
I did not publish the article to the mainspace, I only used the “publish” function in the sandbox as a way to save my work while drafting. 
If unblocked, I will avoid direct edits on any topics where I have a conflict and instead suggest edits via Talk pages or appropriate processes. 
Thank you for your time and consideration. | decline={{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

Muellermedia (talk) 21:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! To help us respond to the request, please do the following:

Review Wikipedia’s payment disclosure and conflict of interest policies and guidelines, then explain in your own words how those apply to your block and what you would do differently if unblocked. You’ve done a few of the recommended actions, but there’s more to it. Please note that because you are editing about your employer, you are a paid editor, regardless of whether you’ve specifically been paid to edit.
Describe the types of edits you would like to make if you were unblocked.

Thank you! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:14, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback, Significa liberdade, this has been very helpful in better understanding the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia.

I’ve reviewed Wikipedia’s policies on paid editing and conflict of interest, including the Terms of Use regarding paid contributions, the conflict of interest guideline, and related editing standards.

I now understand that because I am an employee of Paul Mueller Company, any edits I make related to the company are considered paid contributions under Wikipedia’s definition, even if I was not specifically directed or compensated to create the draft. I acknowledge that I should have disclosed this more explicitly, using the appropriate templates and edit summaries, and I will correct that going forward.

I want to clarify that I did not intend to publish the article myself. My plan was always to eventually submit the draft through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process, once the content was more complete and I had ensured it met Wikipedia’s standards for neutrality and sourcing. I simply clicked “publish” because I was under the impression this is how you save it in sandbox mode. I now also understand that using the “publish” button in the sandbox can be misinterpreted, even though my intent was only to save my progress. I will avoid this confusion in the future.

If unblocked, I will not make direct edits to the article namespace on any topic where I have a conflict of interest. Instead, I will continue drafting in my sandbox and submit the content through AfC for review by independent editors. I will also maintain a clear paid editing disclosure on my user page using the appropriate template (just disclosed this) and will engage transparently on talk pages if I have suggestions or questions about related content.

The only type of editing I plan to do is preparing a factual, neutrally written draft about Paul Mueller Company based on reliable sources. I welcome feedback and review from the community and will leave final editorial decisions to uninvolved editors. When I am in progress for creating the page, I will include something such as “Drafting article for AfC review. Not ready for submission.” if I need to save it and exit my browser.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Muellermedia Muellermedia (talk) 13:24, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Non-administrator comment) Hi @Muellermedia, are you interested in editing any other topics or areas, or just that article?

I also wanted to point out that having an article on Wikipedia isn’t always a good thing – once it’s out there you have no control over it and it may include negative points or controversies if these arise in future & meet the criteria for inclusion. You can’t let the genie out of the bottle, so-to-speak.

It’s also incredibly difficult to write neutrally about something you have a vested interest in. It’s hard enough for an experienced editor and can be almost impossible for someone without any editing experience on Wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia first and foremost, so they’re are strict rules we need to follow in other to be objective. See this article for another explanation of the point I’m trying to make.

There is also a possibility that you might not be allowed to edit any articles on your company for the foreseeable future, so if you’re only interested in this one article it’s a good idea to make that clear as soon as possible.

Alternatively, if you’re interested in gaining experience in other areas, if you let us know your interests we can help guide you on where to start? Blue Sonnet (talk) 17:54, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, and thank you for the follow-up.

I appreciate the reminder about how content on Wikipedia is managed once published. I fully understand that Wikipedia articles, once live, are owned and edited by the community, and I have no expectation of controlling the content. My intent in drafting an article about Paul Mueller Company was not promotional, but to document the company’s historical and technical contributions in a neutral, well-sourced manner.

I understand that even with the best intentions, writing neutrally about a subject I’m professionally connected to is challenging, which is why I never intended to directly publish the article myself. I now recognize that even drafting it without proper disclosure created confusion, and I take full responsibility for that. If given the opportunity, I will stick to appropriate disclosure practices and use the Articles for Creation (AfC) process for any drafts related to my employer, leaving final editorial judgment to uninvolved editors.

In addition to this article, I’d like to contribute more broadly. Paul Mueller Company has expertise in industries like brewing, dairy, heat transfer, and pharmaceutical manufacturing, as well as technologies such as stainless steel processing and thermal energy storage. I’m interested in contributing to topics in those areas, especially by improving technical accuracy, adding references, or suggesting edits to expand existing entries. I’m also open to learning about other areas where help is needed, and would welcome guidance from experienced editors on how to get started.

Thanks again for your time and consideration. I’m here to collaborate constructively and respectfully with the community, and I appreciate the opportunity to demonstrate that. Muellermedia (talk) 18:59, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per point 4 of the block notice, you need to change your username to one that relates to you as an individual (no need to reveal your real name), not to a collective entity such as a business, or to a function such as ‘marketing’ or ‘editor’. What do you want your new username to be? — DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback. I’d like my username changed to StainlessSteelEditor_40, if available. This reflects my commitment to contributing to industries I have extensive knowledge and experience with.

Also, now that I’m taking the right steps, could you please let me know if there’s anything else I need to do before I begin drafting a proposed article for review through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process?

I understand I need to continue disclosing my conflict of interest, use reliable independent sources, and submit drafts for review rather than editing directly. I’m happy to follow all of that.

Lastly, would it be possible to restore my deleted sandbox draft? I’d appreciate being able to use it as a starting point, especially since I was working on making it more neutral and better sourced before it was removed. Muellermedia (talk) 14:57, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Given your continued interest in the Paul Mueller Company, can you provide three reliable, independent sources with significant coverage of the company? These should not primarily routine coverage. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:47, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing. I have three articles for you to take a look at regarding an instance of company growth, one on share repurchasing, and one on the company’s history from an interview with the founder.

1: Missouri Department of Economic Development article on $22m expansion of a new building dealing with pharma, food, beverage, and chemical products.

https://ded.mo.gov/press-room/paul-mueller-company-expand-springfield-investing-22-million-and-creating-133-new-jobs

2: Springfield [MO] Business Journal article on a $15m share repurchase program.

https://sbj.net/stories/paul-mueller-co-board-approves-15m-share-repurchase-program,99157

3: Springfield [MO] Chamber of Commerce article where the individual interviewed the founder of Paul Mueller Company to cover some historical information about the company.

https://www.springfieldchamber.com/a-man-with-stainless-standards-paul-mueller-company/ Muellermedia (talk) 14:01, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None of these three establish that your company is a notable company; this is all coverage of routine activities and an interview. 331dot (talk) 16:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Non-administrator comment) Hi again, apologies if I’m wrong but I’m wondering if you asked AI/LLM to write that answer for you? AI usually can’t understand that articles you’ve been asked to read (blue links) and your response looks like the phrasing that chatbots use.

Please read through all the blue-linked articles you’ve been given, they’re really important for you to understand what you’ve been asked to do. Once you’ve done that, try to answer the question again in your own words.

It won’t be easy to get unblocked, you’ve caused disruption to the encyclopedia so you’ve got to prove to an admin that you won’t continue to do that. Blue Sonnet (talk) 07:22, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am an employee of Paul Mueller Company. I may occasionally contribute to Wikipedia articles related to the company. I intend to follow all applicable Wikipedia policies and guidelines, including those on neutrality, verifiability, and conflict of interest. I will edit transparently and in good faith, and will disclose any potential conflicts when relevant. Muellermedia (talk) 21:41, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:Muellermedia/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be advertising which only promotes or publicises someone or something. Promotional editing of any kind is not permitted, whether it be promotion of a person, company, product, group, service, belief, or anything else. This is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages — user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources or advertising space. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled “Contest this speedy deletion”. This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Lavalizard101 (talk) 13:37, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation’s Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Paul Mueller Company for their contributions to Wikipedia.

Muellermedia (talk) 13:17, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have renamed your account. Another uninvolved admin will review your unblock request. PhilKnight (talk) 15:50, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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