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:I understand the importance of neutrality and independence on Wikipedia, and I have been careful to revise the draft in line with feedback. I will of course continue to follow Wikipedia’s guidelines, and I welcome any further feedback you may have.

:Thank you again for your guidance. [[User:TJS 402|TJS 402]] ([[User talk:TJS 402#top|talk]]) 09:13, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:FlawlessMLM|FlawlessMLM]] (December 22) ==

<div style=”border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: var(–background-color-warning-subtle, #fdf2d5); color: inherit; padding: 0.5em 1em; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;”> [[File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg|50px|left]]Your recent article submission to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for Creation]] has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.<nowiki> </nowiki>The reason left by HitroMilanese was:

{{divbox|gray|3=This draft’s references do not show that the subject [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)|qualifies for a Wikipedia article]]. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

* [[WP:ORGDEPTH|”in-depth”]] (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)

* [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|”reliable”]]

* [[Wikipedia:No original research#Secondary|”secondary”]]

* [[WP:ORGIND|”strictly independent”]] of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet ”all four” of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about [[Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability)|mistakes to avoid]] when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.|}}<!–

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[[User:HitroMilanese|Hitro]][[User Talk:HitroMilanese| talk]] 10:56, 22 December 2025 (UTC)</div><!–Template:AfC decline–>

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Sophisticatedevening were:

This draft’s references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Your draft shows signs of having been generated by a large language model, such as ChatGPT. Their outputs usually have multiple issues that prevent them from meeting our guidelines on writing articles. These include:

Please address these issues. The best way is usually to read reliable sources and summarize them, instead of using a large language model. See our help page on large language models.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

Sophisticatedevening^(talk) 14:44, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, TJS 402!
Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we’d love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Sophisticatedevening^(talk) 14:44, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Rambley were:

This draft’s references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

Please address these issues. The best way is usually to read reliable sources and summarize them, instead of using a large language model. See our help page on large language models.

The comment the reviewer left was:

No improvement since last decline. Likely entirely AI-generated and the sources provided do not establish notability. Almost the entirety of the article is unsourced.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

Rambley 🦝 (talk) 11:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good day Rambley, please see from your side again. I appreciate your feedback! TJS 402 (talk) 11:03, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This draft’s references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Has this been written by AI? All but two of the sources don’t work, so they’re either hallucinated or at the very least the URLs haven’t been checked.
The two sources that do work provide precisely zero evidence of notability.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:50, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello TJS 402. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:FlawlessMLM, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia’s mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a “black hat” practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:TJS 402. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=TJS 402|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:52, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DoubleGrazing, thank you for your message and for pointing this out.

I would like to clarify that I am not affiliated with FlawlessMLM in any professional or financial capacity, nor have I received any form of compensation for editing this draft. I am not employed by the company and I do not represent them.

My motivation in working on this draft is simply an interest in the direct selling / MLM software industry, which I found to be underrepresented on Wikipedia. While many well-known companies in this sector already have articles, I noticed that others, particularly from Eastern Europe, are not well covered despite having won awards or being referenced in industry publications. My intention has been to improve balance and representation on the platform by adding well-sourced, neutrally written information.

I understand the importance of neutrality and independence on Wikipedia, and I have been careful to revise the draft in line with feedback. I will of course continue to follow Wikipedia’s guidelines, and I welcome any further feedback you may have.

Thank you again for your guidance. TJS 402 (talk) 09:13, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by HitroMilanese was:

This draft’s references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

Hitro talk 10:56, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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