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*”’Delete”’ – Clearly a [[WP:CFORK|CFORK]] of what we already have an entire page devoted to, and it’s not those listed in the AfD case but [[Hezbollah armed strength]], where we also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_armed_strength#Supply already include the information] on the arrests this entire page is built around, which is what it warrants per [[WP:DUE]]/[[WP:WEIGHT]]. If you do a search for “Hezbollah European drone smuggling network” and variations, the sole results you get are the few brief news reports on the charges and arrests that happened earlier this year. There is no substantive RS analyzing it as a really existing and proven thing, there is no further details aside from these arrests, there is absolutely nothing. That’s why other editors are linking to pieces about Hezbollah and drones more generally, but that’s not the subject of this page. Even if there had been a page made at a more general level of “Hezbollah and drones” that would not be worthy of a standalone page and belongs to the aforementioned page we already have specifically on the subject of Hezbollah’s military. [[User:Raskolnikov.Rev|Raskolnikov.Rev]] ([[User talk:Raskolnikov.Rev|talk]]) 10:08, 18 December 2025 (UTC) |
*”’Delete”’ – Clearly a [[WP:CFORK|CFORK]] of what we already have an entire page devoted to, and it’s not those listed in the AfD case but [[Hezbollah armed strength]], where we also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_armed_strength#Supply already include the information] on the arrests this entire page is built around, which is what it warrants per [[WP:DUE]]/[[WP:WEIGHT]]. If you do a search for “Hezbollah European drone smuggling network” and variations, the sole results you get are the few brief news reports on the charges and arrests that happened earlier this year. There is no substantive RS analyzing it as a really existing and proven thing, there is no further details aside from these arrests, there is absolutely nothing. That’s why other editors are linking to pieces about Hezbollah and drones more generally, but that’s not the subject of this page. Even if there had been a page made at a more general level of “Hezbollah and drones” that would not be worthy of a standalone page and belongs to the aforementioned page we already have specifically on the subject of Hezbollah’s military. [[User:Raskolnikov.Rev|Raskolnikov.Rev]] ([[User talk:Raskolnikov.Rev|talk]]) 10:08, 18 December 2025 (UTC) |
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* ”’Keep”’: Keep per all above. I find it ironic that the claim of bias for one of the sources is sourced to 972Mag. What is clear is that the article has SIGCOV and it’s more extensive than a one or two sentence in the existing Hezbollah or Hezbollah-Israel War article. [[User:Sir Joseph|Sir Joseph]] <sup>[[User_talk:Sir Joseph|<span style=”color: Green;”>(talk)</span>]]</sup> 00:57, 19 December 2025 (UTC) <!–VCB Sir Joseph–> |
* ”’Keep”’: Keep per all above. I find it ironic that the claim of bias for one of the sources is sourced to 972Mag. What is clear is that the article has SIGCOV and it’s more extensive than a one or two sentence in the existing Hezbollah or Hezbollah-Israel War article. [[User:Sir Joseph|Sir Joseph]] <sup>[[User_talk:Sir Joseph|<span style=”color: Green;”>(talk)</span>]]</sup> 00:57, 19 December 2025 (UTC) <!–VCB Sir Joseph–> |
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*”’Delete”’: Per [[WP:NOTNEWS]], as it aggregates recent event-driven allegations without demonstrating sustained, in-depth coverage establishing enduring encyclopedic significance. [[WP:CFORK]], [[WP:REDUNDANT]] and [[WP:OVERLAP]] also apply, as there are multiple articles that cover the subject where it is already or can be included, such as [[Hezbollah military]] and [[Hezbollah military activities]]. For those who do believe it meets notability standards (I am not sure how given the lack of sourcing beyond a few recent news reports), [[WP:NOPAGE]] applies, as {{tq|at times it is better to cover a notable topic as part of a larger page about a broader topic, with more context (and doing so in no way disparages the importance of the topic).}} [[User:Lf8u2|Lf8u2]] ([[User talk:Lf8u2|talk]]) 19:04, 21 December 2025 (UTC) |
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- Hezbollah’s drone smuggling network (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Nominating this article for deletion. The article’s subject has not received WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS that would establish it as an existing entity, let alone one that would qualify as notable. Reliable sources do not treat “Hezbollah’s drone smuggling network” as a real thing run by Hezbollah or any other kind of programme or distinct unit. The article stitches together isolated incidents across different countries and years, none of which are presented by reliable sources as related or indeed part of a unified network. The result is an editor-constructed synthetic narrative rather than a topic with demonstrable independent notability.
This selective compilation of routine reporting is, I think, a kind of gussied up WP:OR, because the sources themselves do not frame these events as part of a broader, coordinated Hezbollah initiative. Presenting scattered allegations and news items as though they document a single operational structure is a form of WP:SYNTH, and it gives WP:UNDUE weight to a connection that reliable sources do not make. Speaking of sources, much of the article relies on charges and statements by prosecutors rather than legal outcomes or independent reporting, presenting allegations as fact. The article ends up raising WP:BLPCRIME concerns by presenting unreliable or unsustained allegations about living individuals without the level of high-quality, independent sourcing required to include the information on-wiki.
When it comes to sourcing in general the article relies heavily on unreliable and partisan outlets. Israel Hayom is an Adelson-funded Netanyahu-aligned publication. Iran International is frequently regarded as politically influenced and unreliable for uncorroborated security claims. “This Is Beirut” lacks a track record for reliable coverage of intelligence or terrorism matters. “Defense Mirror” is a content aggregator without editorial standards. Kataeb.org is a political party’s website.
These concerns have been noted by another editor on the article’s DYK nomination as well.
Any reliably sourced and neutrally presented material can be merged into more appropriate existing pages, such as Hezbollah, Islamic terrorism in Europe, or Terrorism in Europe, where such content can be placed in proper context without synthesis. The article itself should be deleted as a non-notable, poorly sourced, and synthesis-based content fork. Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military and Iran. jolielover♥talk 12:00, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: The main argument for deletion here is WP:SYNTH—the idea that editors are stitching together unrelated events—but that doesn’t really hold up when you look at the coverage. We have major outlets like the BBC and The Times of Israel explicitly describing these arrests as part of a coordinated “network” or “ring” operating across Spain and Germany. When the reliable sources themselves are connecting the dots and treating this as a singular logistical operation, it’s not synthesis for us to write about it that way. This subject easily passes WP:GNG because the dismantling of a transnational military procurement ring is receiving significant, non-trivial coverage in multiple independent secondary sources. We should keep this and focus on swapping out the lower-quality references for better ones. JÄ«banmá¹›tamessage 16:31, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- DELETE: This is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. None of the individual sources frame the acts as a ‘Drone smuggling network’. Also many sources are unreliable and biased. Some of the article could be salvaged and merged into the Hezbollah article. Dualpendel (talk) 21:03, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Confused a bit by this nomination. This network has received WP:SIGCOV in RS as an explicit entity for over a decade: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. RS treat this network as a real thing run by Hezbollah. Being “Adelson-funded” or WP:BIASED does not make a source non-reliable. This is not the venue for such debates, either. I think a better scope for the article is something like Hezbollah smuggling networks, simialar to Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels, for which there is ample monograph- and book-length coverage. There’s a depressingly large amount of WP:SYNTH in this topic area, but this article isn’t it. Longhornsg (talk) 04:29, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- Delete this article should not exist as a standalone page for several reasons. First, it is extremely narrow and time sensitive, focusing on a handful of arrests and incidents that are likely to fade quickly from the news cycle. Wikipedia is not a news archive, and creating pages for short lived events is generally inappropriate. Second, the topic overlaps heavily with existing articles such as Hezbollah and Terrorism in Europe, so maintaining a separate page only fragments coverage and adds confusion. Third, the article lacks broader context, as it does not meaningfully situate these arrests within Hezbollah’s wider activities or European security dynamics, leaving it as a context-less entry. Fourth, the level of detail devoted to individual cases risks giving WP:UNDUE weight to relatively minor events. And finally, the sources used are also, as mentioned by the nomination, extremely lacking. Any material of lasting value can be more appropriately merged into other broader and better sourced articles. Paprikaiser (talk) 20:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- The reporting is over a period of several months. There are a lot of examples of articles that fail WP:NEVENT, but this is an WP:ORG and has the requisite WP:SIGCOV. If you think it lacks coverage of appropriate context, add it in. Longhornsg (talk) 02:34, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree that the article meets WP:SIGCOV. The coverage is limited and fragmented, and it focuses on a small number of minor arrests over a short period, with no substantive coverage of a distinct Hezbollah European drone smuggling entity outside this context. I was also not aware that we already have the article Hezbollah armed strength, which specifically covers the WP:ORG‘s military and already includes this material at an appropriate length. That further reinforces my support for deletion here. Paprikaiser (talk) 20:19, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- The reporting is over a period of several months. There are a lot of examples of articles that fail WP:NEVENT, but this is an WP:ORG and has the requisite WP:SIGCOV. If you think it lacks coverage of appropriate context, add it in. Longhornsg (talk) 02:34, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Longhornsg. BlookyNapsta (talk) 09:11, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Clearly a CFORK of what we already have an entire page devoted to, and it’s not those listed in the AfD case but Hezbollah armed strength, where we also already include the information on the arrests this entire page is built around, which is what it warrants per WP:DUE/WP:WEIGHT. If you do a search for “Hezbollah European drone smuggling network” and variations, the sole results you get are the few brief news reports on the charges and arrests that happened earlier this year. There is no substantive RS analyzing it as a really existing and proven thing, there is no further details aside from these arrests, there is absolutely nothing. That’s why other editors are linking to pieces about Hezbollah and drones more generally, but that’s not the subject of this page. Even if there had been a page made at a more general level of “Hezbollah and drones” that would not be worthy of a standalone page and belongs to the aforementioned page we already have specifically on the subject of Hezbollah’s military. Raskolnikov.Rev (talk) 10:08, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Keep per all above. I find it ironic that the claim of bias for one of the sources is sourced to 972Mag. What is clear is that the article has SIGCOV and it’s more extensive than a one or two sentence in the existing Hezbollah or Hezbollah-Israel War article. Sir Joseph (talk) 00:57, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Per WP:NOTNEWS, as it aggregates recent event-driven allegations without demonstrating sustained, in-depth coverage establishing enduring encyclopedic significance. WP:CFORK, WP:REDUNDANT and WP:OVERLAP also apply, as there are multiple articles that cover the subject where it is already or can be included, such as Hezbollah military and Hezbollah military activities. For those who do believe it meets notability standards (I am not sure how given the lack of sourcing beyond a few recent news reports), WP:NOPAGE applies, as
at times it is better to cover a notable topic as part of a larger page about a broader topic, with more context (and doing so in no way disparages the importance of the topic).
Lf8u2 (talk) 19:04, 21 December 2025 (UTC)


