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==== NEW NOMINATIONS ====

==== NEW NOMINATIONS ====

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==== Category:Art of Europe ====

:* ”’Propose renaming”’ [[:Category:Art of Europe]] to [[:Category:European art]]

:”’Nominator’s rationale:”’ Art of Europe is the only outlier (“Art of X”) in the [[:Category:Art by continent]] category, all other entries there are in the “Fooian art” format like Asian art, African art, etc. <sub style=”border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;”>[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style=”color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;”> reply here</span>]]</sub> 05:07, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

==== Milliners ====

==== Milliners ====

:*”’Rename”’ [[:Category:Milliners]] (7 direct articles) to [[:Category:Hatters and milliners]]

:*”’Rename”’ [[:Category:Milliners]] (7 direct articles) to [[:Category:Hatters and milliners]]


Latest revision as of 05:07, 14 December 2025

Category:Art of Europe

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Nominator’s rationale: Art of Europe is the only outlier (“Art of X”) in the Category:Art by continent category, all other entries there are in the “Fooian art” format like Asian art, African art, etc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:07, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator’s rationale The base article is at hatmaking. At one point milliner meant women involved in the design, production and sale of women’s hats. Hatters were men designing, producing and selling hats to men. The hat industry is no longer quite divided that way, and when we move to a global scale we start to find cases that do not fit under that scope well either. We have 3 sub-cats where the only article is on someone who was a hatter, not a milliner. A 4th, the Swiss, is on a 19th-century Swiss man called a “hatter”, but he was mainly known for the women’s hats he designed and sold. The current term is not the right term for at least some of the contents, the character from Alice in Wonderland is the Mad Hatter not the mad milliner, and this is part of a larger use of the term because men’s felt hats in the 19th-century were being treated with mercury so the men involved in the manufacture of hats were developing mercury poisoning at high rates. The joint title seems the best way to move forward, since the exact lines when you consider them globally by both time and place are in a lot of cases hard to draw, there are people who clearly would never have thought of themselves as either hatters or milliners and yet there are people who could easily described as both, plus the size of this category is not big enough to justify splitting it into two different categories. We have similar joint named categories such as Category:Dramatists and playwrights. I have also nominated for renaming all sub-cats with 4 plus articles and upmerge all sub-cats with 3 articles or less. Because of changing nature between being fashion designers designing hats, shop clerks selling hats, owners of hat retail shops, or people involved in the manufacture of hats but not the sale, I think we should manually review what other categories to upmerge the various articles to. A few of the articles being upmerged to the new Hatters and milliners parent from small by nationality sub-cats we would also not want to upmerge because they are already in other sub-cats of the other parents they would be merged to.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upmerge 1, 2 en 3-article categories, they are not helpful for easy navigation. I do not have an opinion on hatters versus milliners. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Nazi Germany-stub

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Nominator’s rationale: Grammar edit; spaces are not typically allowed in stub template names – OpalYosutebitotalk』 『articles I want to eat04:38, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:United States spacecraft stubs

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Nominator’s rationale: Per consistency with the parent categories in Spacecraft stubsOpalYosutebitotalk』 『articles I want to eat04:25, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Churches in Peru by populated place

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Nominator’s rationale: Upmerge category containing only one subcategory. Mclay1 (talk) 02:19, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Roman Catholic churches in the Department of Cusco

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Nominator’s rationale: Upmerge category containing only one subcategory, which is already categorised within Category:Roman Catholic church buildings in Peru by populated place. This category is also in two layers that contain nothing else so can be deleted. Mclay1 (talk) 02:16, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles using infobox

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Nominator’s rationale: These categories include all pages transcluding their respective templates, with no specific maintenance use. This isn’t usual for infoboxes. After a discussion with the creator, it was determined they are no longer needed, but I’m bringing it to a full CfD just in case. Mclay1 (talk) 01:30, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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