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*::It is probably better to put the “fixed” or “done” comments up above, so they are each directly below the initial comment they are responding to. It is easier for everyone to see which are addressed, etc. [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 15:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC) |
*::It is probably better to put the “fixed” or “done” comments up above, so they are each directly below the initial comment they are responding to. It is easier for everyone to see which are addressed, etc. [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 15:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 17:31, 10 December 2025
Meg White (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
As of 10 December 2025, 17:31 (UTC), this page is active and open for discussion. An FAC coordinator will be responsible for closing the nomination.
- Nominator(s): Watagwaan (talk) 18:34, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
This article is about Meg White, the drummer of the White Stripes. Watagwaan (talk) 18:34, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Hopefully, I would master a full review :)! For now I noticed that this file is sourced to a broken Flickr link and it is not archived by wayback machine. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 19:06, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- That’s really strange, actually. It’s been on the website for quite a while too, and was even used in her DYK… I’m not sure what happened there. It was supposedly reviewed and verified in 2007 though. Watagwaan (talk) 04:57, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Noleander
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- Clarify … she has not been active in the industry since. Some readers may not understand that “industry” is short for “music industry”, so they might benefit from an added word there.
- Clarify: White Blood Cells would have a major label re-release with V2 Records in 2002, which brought them to the forefront of the garage rock revival and made them one of the most acclaimed bands of the year.[31][7][15] It was their last album to be released with the “Sympathy for the Record Industry” A couple of issues there:
- Consider flipping the sequence of those sentences to present facts in chronological order: WBC released under (minor) Sympathy label; that is the final album with that label; WBC re-released with a second, major label.
- The name of that minor label is problematic for readers. The first place it is used is okay because there is a blue link Sympathy for the Record Industry; but the 2nd place is confusing: reader cannot tell it is a label, tho quote marks are used, which helps a little. Consider: (a) deleting the sentence altogether
It was their last album to be released with the “Sympathy for the Record Industry”.; or (b) adding the word “label” Into the that sentence. or (c) move that sentence up immediately after The White Stripes rose to widespread recognition in 2001 with the release of their album White Blood Cells.. This issue is not a showstoppper for FA.
- Date last active? Info box says Years active 1997–2011, but the body text says “last public appearance was in 2009”. Can that discrepancy be clarified?
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- There is a discrepancy between her last media appearance and retirement; the former was in 2009 on Conan, and the latter was an official retirement statement announced through the band.
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- Any more details? They presented themselves as siblings to an unknowing public… Seems odd that a married couple would pretend to be siblings. Do the sources have any additional insight into that? Were they trying to hide their marriage from friends and family?
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- I added another source for the siblings thing, but it is heavily explained in the White Stripes article so I didn’t want to go in-depth about that since it has to do with the band as a whole.
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- More details? That same year, she began appearing on Late Night with Conan O’Brien as a guest host and performer. I’m not an expert in talk shows, but being a guest host seems like a huge honor. Normally, only a few guest hosts are used, and they are generally famous Hollywood persons, and are extroverted & talkative. This seems in stark contrast with her later reclusiveness. Do the sources have any details: how often was she a guest host? What did critics say of her performance in that role? When and why did her guest host duties come to an end?
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- I made a mistake about Conan, they did not host. The White Stripes were performers and they appeared in skits for the show, which is not the same as hosting. I apologize for my denseness.
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- Need for quote marks? … called “minimalistic” and “primal” … She is also noted for her few interviews and her elusive media image, calling herself “very shy” and reclusive. This is in the lead, which should be very smooth & concise; probably no need for quote marks around these 1 or 2 word phrases. E.g. the word “reclusive” in that passage is not quoted and poses no problems. Quotes would be appropriate if the words were bizarre or controversial, but these are words are typical for musicians/celebrities. IF you drop the quote marks, may need to drop word “very”: compare calling herself very shy and reclusive vs calling herself shy and reclusive
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- I dropped the quote marks.
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- Alt text for images: The two images at the top of the “Equipment” section are missing Alt text … The “multiple image” template supports alt text. Suggest double-check all images.
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- I added alt-text to the images.
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- Wording? Furthermore, saying that she respects other drumming techniques, but concludes that her style suits the band best. It looks like that sentence is missing a couple of words. Is it trying to say She said she respects other drumming techniques, but determined that her style is best for the band.?
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- I’m not sure what happened to that sentence, thanks! I fixed it.
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- Wording White was the subject of some internet memes during her activity. Doesn’t sound right. Maybe White was the subject of some internet memes during her career. or White was the subject of some internet memes. or White was the subject of some internet memes during the period she was performing.
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- I actually sorted a bit for clarity and removed that sentence entirely. I moved the “Megbot” sentences to her personal life, since it has less to do with her image and it was more of a joke.
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- More on misogyny/sexism? The only refutation of sexist comments is this from Jack Jack considered her drumming “the best part of this band”, said that negative reviews and comments were sexist… If the sources support it, consider adding a sentence on others in the industry that called-out the misogyny.
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- As the article goes on, there are some more mentions about sexism and how White is a feminist icon. They are minimal, but in this context, that was a quote of Jack when he responded to negative press regarding Meg. I made it clearer that that’s what he said.
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- Primary source? In 2016, the satirical site Nevada County Scooper published a hoax article claiming that White would replace Neil Peart in the Canadian rock band Rush. The cited source for that sentence is the Scooper’s own website, correct? That may run afoul of WP guidance (see WP:OR, WP:RS, WP:SYNTH, WP:UNDUE, WP:PRIMARY). That sentence could be okay if other sources (e.g. Rolling Stone, or White herself) commented on the Scooper. A website can be used as a source if the site’s statement (e.g. “White is a drummer”) were in the article to tell the readers White is a drummer. But here, the article is not telling the reader she is replacing Peart, it is telling the reader that the Scooper published a satire. So: the necessary source would be a website/musician that said “The Scooper wrote a satirical piece about White”. If such a source does not exist, the sentence should probably be removed.
- … in progress … Noleander (talk) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
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- It is probably better to put the “fixed” or “done” comments up above, so they are each directly below the initial comment they are responding to. It is easier for everyone to see which are addressed, etc. Noleander (talk) 15:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- My comments/replies are now in red! Hope this makes it easier! Watagwaan (talk) 17:31, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- It is probably better to put the “fixed” or “done” comments up above, so they are each directly below the initial comment they are responding to. It is easier for everyone to see which are addressed, etc. Noleander (talk) 15:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
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