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:Disagree, it’s already been trimmed down and is pretty concise, you would expect an article on somebody as big as Sinatra to be this developed, given that he had several big careers going and the amount of material which exists. Elvis too has a big article. This has been up 10 years now, pick on something else which actually needs the work. ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style=”font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e”>”Dr. Blofeld”</span>]] 05:09, 3 January 2026 (UTC) |
:Disagree, it’s already been trimmed down and is pretty concise, you would expect an article on somebody as big as Sinatra to be this developed, given that he had several big careers going and the amount of material which exists. Elvis too has a big article. This has been up 10 years now, pick on something else which actually needs the work. ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style=”font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e”>”Dr. Blofeld”</span>]] 05:09, 3 January 2026 (UTC) |
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:*{{re|Dr. Blofeld}} There are lots of sections in this article that could be [[WP:SPINOUT|spun out]], summarised more effectively, and/or have more headings to prevent overly-long sections (which is particularly a problem on mobile). These include the following sections: “1935–1942: Hoboken Four, Harry James, and Tommy Dorsey”, “1942–1945: Onset of Sinatramania and Role in World War II”, “1946–1952: Columbia years and career slump”, “1953–1960: Career revival and the Capitol years”, “1960–1970: Reprise years”, “1970–1981: “Retirement” and return”, “1982–1997: Later career and final projects”, “Artistry”, “Television and radio career”, “Personal life” (before the “Style and personality” sub-heading), “Political views and activism”, and “Legacy and honors”. Shortening these sections would allow the article to fulfil [[WP:GA?|GA criteria]] 1b ([[MOS:LAYOUT]]) and 3b ([[WP:SS]]). [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 05:38, 3 January 2026 (UTC) |
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The article is too large and too detailed. Many of the quotes and statements can be summarised more effectively, and less important details should be trimmed. There are some uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 20:58, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
- Disagree, it’s already been trimmed down and is pretty concise, you would expect an article on somebody as big as Sinatra to be this developed, given that he had several big careers going and the amount of material which exists. Elvis too has a big article. This has been up 10 years now, pick on something else which actually needs the work. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 05:09, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Dr. Blofeld: There are lots of sections in this article that could be spun out, summarised more effectively, and/or have more headings to prevent overly-long sections (which is particularly a problem on mobile). These include the following sections: “1935–1942: Hoboken Four, Harry James, and Tommy Dorsey”, “1942–1945: Onset of Sinatramania and Role in World War II”, “1946–1952: Columbia years and career slump”, “1953–1960: Career revival and the Capitol years”, “1960–1970: Reprise years”, “1970–1981: “Retirement” and return”, “1982–1997: Later career and final projects”, “Artistry”, “Television and radio career”, “Personal life” (before the “Style and personality” sub-heading), “Political views and activism”, and “Legacy and honors”. Shortening these sections would allow the article to fulfil GA criteria 1b (MOS:LAYOUT) and 3b (WP:SS). Z1720 (talk) 05:38, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
