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– [[User:Demetrios1993|Demetrios1993]] ([[User talk:Demetrios1993|talk]]) 15:11, 11 November 2025 (UTC) |
– [[User:Demetrios1993|Demetrios1993]] ([[User talk:Demetrios1993|talk]]) 15:11, 11 November 2025 (UTC) |
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:1.) That is a weak argument and doesn‘t make me a sockpuppet. |
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:2.) Maybe because it was? |
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:3.) I only added the link of the “Glogovac attack” article to the Adem Jashari article, since Adem Jashari was involved there |
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:4.) Again, that doesn‘t make me a sockpuppet, that‘s like saying that User:Peja.mapping is a sockpuppet of Albanian atdhetar, because they both made articles about the Kosovo War. |
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:Summary: Just because me and Albanian Atdhetar created an article about Drenica, doesn‘t mean that i‘m a sockpuppet of him [[User:AverageSkiptar|AverageSkiptar]] ([[User talk:AverageSkiptar|talk]]) 16:33, 13 November 2025 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 16:33, 13 November 2025
For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Albanian atdhetar/Archive.
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Suspected sockpuppets
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User:AverageSkiptar was registered about a week ago, on 2 November 2025 (CA). They drew my attention after I saw an unblock request they posted on their talk page (here). They were autoblocked for using an IP address that was previously used by User:Kachak25261, who was indefinitely blocked back in January 2025 for disruptive editing (block log). I don’t know if Yamla accepted their request because the IP address might have been associated with a proxy or not, but the added fact that they both focus(ed) on Albanian-related battles and exhibit(ed) a pro-Albanian POV, ties them together rather convincingly in my opinion. Please correct me if I have misunderstood something regarding the technical information associated with the autoblock.
Regardless of the above, I also suspect that User:AverageSkiptar might be a sockpuppet of Albanian atdhetar, who also focused on Albanian-related battles and exhibited a pro-Albanian POV. Notice that the first and, currently, only article created by User:AverageSkiptar (see here) is Yugoslav offensive in Drenica (1999) (originally as Draft:March 1999 offensive in Drenica). The toponym Drenica is reflected in the usernames of Albanian atdhetar’s confirmed sockpuppets Based Drenica (the page still lacks an appropriate socktag) and Skibididrenica. The sockmaster Albanian atdhetar, as well as its sockpuppets Based Drenica and Skibididrenica, had created a number of pages about battles in the region of Drenica (which includes Prekaz):
- Albanian atdhetar (sockmaster):
- Based Drenica (confirmed sockpuppet):
- Skibididrenica (confirmed sockpuppet):
- AverageSkiptar (suspected sockpuppet):
I also found a number of similar edits in the following pages:
- Ilaz Kodra: Both Based Drenica (diff) and AverageSkiptar (diff) added the pages they created about battles in the Drenica region.
- Battle of Novi Pazar: Both Albanian atdhetar (diff1, diff2) and AverageSkiptar (diff) added the exact same content, mentioning that this battle was part of the Uprising in Serbia (1941). Besides AverageSkiptar, nobody ever tried to restore the same content since the contemporaneous reverts by an IP about 14 months ago (diff1, diff2).
- Adem Jashari: Albanian atdhetar (diff1, diff2), Based Drenica (diff), and AverageSkiptar (diff), all added links to battles that occurred in the Drenica region.
- Kosovo Liberation Army: Albanian atdhetar (diff), Based Drenica (diff1, diff2), and AverageSkiptar (diff), all added the pages they created about battles in the Drenica region.
Lastly, I should also note that the aforementioned accounts, with the exception of Skibididrenica (due to deleted edits apparently), all share pretty similar timecards:
– Demetrios1993 (talk) 15:11, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- 1.) That is a weak argument and doesn‘t make me a sockpuppet.
- 2.) Maybe because it was?
- 3.) I only added the link of the “Glogovac attack” article to the Adem Jashari article, since Adem Jashari was involved there
- 4.) Again, that doesn‘t make me a sockpuppet, that‘s like saying that User:Peja.mapping is a sockpuppet of Albanian atdhetar, because they both made articles about the Kosovo War.
- Summary: Just because me and Albanian Atdhetar created an article about Drenica, doesn‘t mean that i‘m a sockpuppet of him AverageSkiptar (talk) 16:33, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
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Also even if he doesn’t get blocked for sockpuppetry he should still get blocked for his disruptive editing, he is constantly continuing adding OR, unreliable sources and sources that are either not related or the ones who doesn’t support the statement (check history of Yugoslav offensive in Drenica (1999). I tried to explain to him what’s wrong and tried fixing the article instead of putting it for deletion because article is WP:Notable but no he doesn’t seem to understand even the slightest what i have said and just continued his job Wikicommonsfan134 (talk) 06:53, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- tagging checkusers @Yamla @Izno Wikicommonsfan134 (talk) 15:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
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