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==== Umayyad state of Córdoba ====

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:”The result of the discussion was:” ”’Merge/rename”’ [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style=”color:#800000″>it has begun…</sub>]] 04:28, 14 December 2025 (UTC)<!– Template:Cfd top –>

:* ”’Propose renaming”’ [[:Category:Caliphate of Córdoba]] to [[:Category:Umayyad state of Córdoba]]

:* ”’Propose renaming”’ [[:Category:Caliphate of Córdoba]] to [[:Category:Umayyad state of Córdoba]]

:* ”’Propose merging”’ [[:Category:Emirate of Córdoba]] to [[:Category:Umayyad state of Córdoba]]

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* Note to closer that the suggested lines won’t give the intended meaning if processed by JJMC89 bot III. One of the categories in each pair needs to be renamed first. [[User:Kaffet i halsen|Kaffet i halsen]] ([[User talk:Kaffet i halsen|talk]]) 15:16, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

* Note to closer that the suggested lines won’t give the intended meaning if processed by JJMC89 bot III. One of the categories in each pair needs to be renamed first. [[User:Kaffet i halsen|Kaffet i halsen]] ([[User talk:Kaffet i halsen|talk]]) 15:16, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

:* That is a fair point. I have rearranged the nomination. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 15:41, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

:* That is a fair point. I have rearranged the nomination. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 15:41, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

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====Category:Dragon characters in video games====

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Simpson Red Hawks coaches

Rename category Category:Simpson Red Hawks baseball coaches to Category:Simpson Red Hawks coaches while also merging the articles to Category:College baseball coaches in California
Merge Category:Simpson Red Hawks football coaches to Category:College football coaches in California and Category:Simpson Red Hawks coaches (to be formed by renaming and merging)
Merge Category:Simpson Red Hawks women’s soccer coaches to Category:Simpson Red Hawks coaches (to be formed by renaming/merging) and Category:College women’s soccer coaches in California
Nominator’s rational Category:Simpson University only has 5 articles in the whole tree. The article on the university, plus 2 articles on baseball coaches, 1 on a football coach, and 1 on a eomen’s soccer coach. I think we should create a new Category Category:Simpson Red Hawks coaches, move all 4 articles there and then upmerge them to the college coaches in California for their various sports. This would make navigation between articles a lot easier. Right now you have to go through 2 or 3 lawyers of categories to get from the football coach or the women’s soccer coach to the other related articles. Since we have a rule that encourages having Biographical articles seperate I think we should still have the Simpson Red Hawks coaches Category to group them. However since all we have else is the Simpson University article we may just want to delete the parent category and link to the University article in the heading for the coaches Category, but I am not sure either way. The 5 categories holding just 4 articles are excessive though.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:46, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn’t it become Category:Simpson Red Hawks sports coaches, with “sports”? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. These are too narrow to aid navigation, at least with the current coverage in the article space. – RevelationDirect (talk) 22:56, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a parallel category in a well-established class of categories. When category deletion degrades parallelism, it makes navigation more difficult, not easier.
Jweiss11 (talk) 03:16, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- In 2 of the broader Geography coaches categories we already have other articles directly there. This small of categories is not useful. We replaced Small cat guidelines with narrow cat guidelines in part because keeping lots of overly small categories just because there are a lot of them is not wise and does not help navigation. The “well established class of categories” argument is no longer an acceptable argument for keeping particular overly-small categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:15, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Jweiss. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:46, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Category:Contra Costa Comets football coaches to Category:College football coaches in California and Category:Contra Costa Comets football [added 12-4-2025 Category:Junior college football coaches in the United States)
Merge Category:Santa Barbara Marines football coaches to Category:College football coaches in California and Category:Santa Barbara Marines football (added 12-4-2025 Category:American military sports coaches)
Nominators rationale These 1 article categories hinder navigation. Merging to the applicable parent categories will make navigation easier.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:10, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. These are too narrow to aid navigation, at least with the current coverage in the article space. – RevelationDirect (talk) 22:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom —Lenticel ^(talk) 00:12, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep a parallel categories in a well-established class of categories. When category deletion degrades parallelism, it makes navigation more difficult, not easier. If these categories are to be unmerged, the nomination is missing critical cats: Category:Junior college football coaches in the United States for Contra Costa and Category:American military sports coaches for Santa Barbara. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:21, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This small of categories is not useful. We replaced Small cat guidelines with narrow cat guidelines in part because keeping lots of overly small categories just because there are a lot of them is not wise and does not help navigation. The “well established class of categories” argument is no longer an acceptable argument for keeping particular overly-small categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:15, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I reject your argument. But what’s more important is that you should at least alter your nomination per the missing critical categories I identified. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:28, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I added the missing targets mentioned above. Category:Junior college football coaches in the United States has 32 direct articles. Category:American military sports coaches has 7 direct articles. So there is even less of a reason to need to diffuse along those lines. 1 article categories are not helping with navigation at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:39, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Jweiss. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:45, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1 article short story writers by nationality categories

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:16, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Botswana women short story writers

Andorran short story writers

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). GoldRomean (talk) 15:11, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale These 2 categories only have 1 article in total. This set up clearly does not conform to the last rung rule which is that we should not diffuse a category by gender (it applies to some other traits as well) if we do not diffuse it in any other way. There are few good reasons to have a 1 article Category, and even fewer to diffuse such a category. I think here we would be best off upmerging to the parent categories. I see no way these 1 article categories are helping navigation.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:31, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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1 article novelist categories

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:10, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: These 4 categories all are 1 article each. Because novelists are also diffused by century none of these 4 articles need to be merged to Category:Novelists at this time. I have in specific cases described where we should best merge these categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:15, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Taganrog by occupation

Category:Basketball teams in Limpopo

Category:People from Rostov-on-Don by occupation

Category:Streets in Austin, Texas

Umayyad state of Córdoba

Category:Dragon characters in video games

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 2#Category:Dragon characters in video games

Category:Aviators from Lyon

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * _{it has begun…} 04:27, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Do we really need to break out aviators by populated place? ^SMason_Garrison 23:04, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge occupation by city is a level of diffusion we need to be sparing with especially for occupations not strongly connected with a specific location. I do not think 5 articles is enough to justify a category under these circumstances.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:15, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Surfaces of constant curvature

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The result of the discussion was: Keep Category:Surfaces of constant curvature and merge the others into it. * Pppery * _{it has begun…} 04:27, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Only contents are two articles, one in the second level and one in the third. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 08:34, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added two more articles to Category:Surfaces of constant negative curvature. Maybe Category:Surfaces of revolution of constant negative curvature could be merged into that category? —Kri (talk) 09:27, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge all, there are still only 4 articles in 3 categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:52, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What about merging them into Category:Surfaces of constant curvature? That way, there is only 1 category, and 5 articles (I added the article Sphere). I don’t think navigation is the only purpose of categories; they are help you find other articles that are in some sense similar to the one you are currently reading (which this category achieves). —Kri (talk) 21:43, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. — Just N. (talk) 13:01, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Surfaces of constant curvature (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Hyperbolic geometry doesn’t necessarily have constant curvature, so Category:Hyperbolic geometry is less precise, and Category:Surfaces of constant curvature no longer only contains articles that are about shapes with hyperbolic geometry (the article Sphere isn’t). The categories now in total contain 5 articles, which I think is enough to justify keeping one of the categories. —Kri (talk) 22:02, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Music of Pakistani subdivisions

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). GoldRomean (talk) 18:18, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Upmerge category layer with just one subcategory and corresponding article. Mclay1 (talk) 13:20, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Futures projects

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 2#Category:Futures projects

Category:Future vision statements of countries

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) GothicGolem29 (Talk) 12:37, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Overcategorisation. All these subcategories of Category:Telugu states contain just two subcategories, one for each state. All those subcategories are already categorised within their own state’s category, both of which are already in Category:Telugu states. All were created by the same globally blocked user. Mclay1 (talk) 12:06, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Crime in Jerusalem

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * _{it has begun…} 04:26, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Propose splitting Category:Crime in Jerusalem to Category:Crime in East Jerusalem, Category:Crime in the Old City of Jerusalem, and Category:Crime in West Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:Attacks in Jerusalem to Category:Attacks in East Jerusalem, Category:Attacks in the Old City of Jerusalem, and Category:Attacks in West Jerusalem
Propose renaming Category:Building bombings in Jerusalem to Category:Building bombings in West Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:Marketplace attacks in Jerusalem to Category:Marketplace attacks in the Old City of Jerusalem and Category:Marketplace attacks in West Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:Terrorist incidents in Jerusalem in the 1990s to Category:Terrorist incidents in East Jerusalem in the 1990s, Category:Terrorist incidents in the Old City of Jerusalem in the 1990s, and Category:Terrorist incidents in West Jerusalem in the 1990s
Propose splitting Category:Terrorist incidents in Jerusalem in the 2000s to Category:Terrorist incidents in East Jerusalem in the 2000s and Category:Terrorist incidents in West Jerusalem in the 2000s
Propose splitting Category:Terrorist incidents in Jerusalem in the 2010s to Category:Terrorist incidents in East Jerusalem in the 2010s, Category:Terrorist incidents in the Old City of Jerusalem in the 2010s, and Category:Terrorist incidents in West Jerusalem in the 2010s
Propose splitting Category:Terrorist incidents in Jerusalem in the 2020s to Category:Terrorist incidents in East Jerusalem in the 2020s, Category:Terrorist incidents in the Old City of Jerusalem in the 2020s, and Category:Terrorist incidents in West Jerusalem in the 2020s
Propose splitting Category:Terrorism deaths in Jerusalem to Category:Terrorism deaths in East Jerusalem and Category:Terrorism deaths in West Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:Suicide bombings in Jerusalem to Category:Suicide bombings in East Jerusalem and Category:Suicide bombings in West Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:Mass shootings in Jerusalem to Category:Mass shootings in East Jerusalem, Category:Mass shootings in the Old City of Jerusalem, and Category:Mass shootings in West Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:Murder in Jerusalem to Category:Murder in East Jerusalem, Category:Murder in the Old City of Jerusalem, and Category:Murder in West Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:20th-century mass murder in Jerusalem to Category:20th-century mass murder in the Old City of Jerusalem and Category:20th-century mass murder in West Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:21st-century mass murder in Jerusalem to Category:21st-century mass murder in East Jerusalem and Category:21st-century mass murder in West Jerusalem
Propose renaming Category:Riots and civil disorder in Jerusalem to Category:Riots and civil disorder in the Old City of Jerusalem
Propose splitting Category:Vehicle-ramming attacks in Jerusalem to Category:Vehicle-ramming attacks in East Jerusalem and Category:Vehicle-ramming attacks in West Jerusalem

Nominator’s rationale: It annoys me that Category:Crime in Jerusalem has both Category:Crime in Jerusalem and Category:Crime in the West Bank as parent categories even though the category isn’t only for crimes committed by people with one foot on each side of the border. This split would be defining^[1] and objective, so I hope that the only things debated (if anything) will be whether the split should be two-way or three-way and what the names of the new categories should be. Care to differ or discuss with me? The N^th User 09:30, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Better to check if upon splitting the categories wouldn’t be WP:NARROW. For example, Category:Terrorist incidents in Jerusalem in the 2020s contains just seven articles and my gut feeling is that after splitting into two they would contain very few articles. Brandmeister ^talk 12:32, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We can create fewer categories if you think that that would be better. I prioritized thoroughness because the category tree seems to be already using that guideline (e.g., Category:Terrorist incidents in Jerusalem in the 1960s only has one member, but there is also a category for each subsequent decade, and it is part of diffusing Category:Terrorist incidents in Jerusalem entirely into subcategories), and I wanted to respect that. However, I also see your argument. Care to differ or discuss with me? The N^th User 20:23, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_November_25#Mass_murder also affects certain categories in this nomination. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 07:16, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There is a longstanding consensus not to split content in categories for East and West Jerusalem. (2007, 2019, 2020 etc.) Among the issues that would come with such a split are 1°) the ethnic POV-fork, as content would be placed in “Jerusalem” or “East Jerusalem” no because of the geographic area but because they are Arab or Jewish and 2°) recentism, as placing pre-1948 content in a West or East Jerusalem category makes little sense. As a result, due to the disputed status of Jerusalem, which is claimed in part of whole by both Israel and the Palestinians, the strict respect of NPOV (a founding pillar of Wikipedia) mandates that Jerusalem categories are placed in both Israel and Palestine parent categories. This is not an issue (no more than placing Crimea categories in both Russia and Ukraine parents). Place Clichy (talk) 07:50, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Canis lupus dingo

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 2#Category:Canis lupus dingo

Category:Subspecies of Canis aureus

Jordan’s desert castles

Nominator’s rationale: The caption in the image of Desert castles#Historical background uses the phrase “desert castles in Jordan,” which also feels more professional than the current name. Merging to Category:Castles in Jordan is an alternative, but Desert castles seems to indicate that this is a well-defined category and not just based on some arbitrary amount of rainfall that the land around the castle must receive per year. However, this category definitely should have parent categories, and more desert castle pages are listed in Desert castles#Jordan than are in this category, so it looks like there will be work to do (which I am willing to perform) if this category ends up being kept. Care to differ or discuss with me? The N^th User 05:23, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:National governments

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 2#Category:National governments

Category:Yachts by home port

1 article carpenter categories

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 7#1 article carpenter categories

Categories by city in Korea

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). GoldRomean (talk) 18:18, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Redundant category layers with only one subcategory each. The subcategories are already sufficiently categorised so no upmerge is needed. Mclay1 (talk) 02:02, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Politician from Offa, Kwara State

Category:People from Offa, Kwara State

Category:Triple jumpers from Northern Ireland

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 2#Category:Triple jumpers from Northern Ireland

Category:CONCACAF Series

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). GoldRomean (talk) 18:17, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Recently created 1-article category, overcategorization. Gjs238 (talk) 01:45, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hawaii artists

Nominator’s rationale: I think we need to merge these OR make it much clearer what the distinction is ^SMason_Garrison 01:37, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Purge and Merge. The lists of painters, sculptors and printmakers who depicted Hawai’i and its people should not be merged to Artists from Hawaii. A portion of them either did these depictions without ever going to Hawaii or with very short visits to Hawaii. The broad heading of this category would justify applying it to any animator of the 2002 film “Lilo and Stitch” at least the huge part of that film that is set in Hawaii. Whether or not said person ever set foot in Hawaii. The lists existing show there is a phenomenon in art of “depicting Hawaii and its people”, and many who have done so were not “from Hawaii” by any reasonable definition. People from Hawaii need to bd long term residents, not just artists who come for a few months to create their art, and dome of the people who have depicted Hawaii never went there at all. However I do not think that this is a defining enough concept to justify a category. My Lilo and Stitch example would include animators who had a broad array of works in lots of places, and some set of artists who have done many works depicting Hawaii and Hawaiians you will find that their topic is more broadly Pacific Islands and Pacific islanders. This is a topic that is better covered by a list than a category. Any people here who actually were from Hawaii should be merged there, but artists who briefly cane to Hawaii to create workers should not be moved to that category just because those works defined them, only if their residence reached to a truly defining part of their life.
John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:05, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The first person in Hawaii artists is Auguste Borget who began exhibiting in Paris in 1836. He was French. In 1838 he stopped “briefly” in Hawaii after traveling though the Americas and then went on to travel though Malaya and India in 1839. The lead says he was known for his drawings and prints of “exotic places” [is that term actually NPOV compliant] and then says “in particular China”. The article does not clearly say he represented Hawaii in his art at all. What it dies say is a museum in Hawaii holds dome of his work. We do not want to categorize artists by where the museums that hold their work are, and for artists thst drew lots of places we do not want to categorize every place they drew. John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:20, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly a case of WP:OCASSOC. Can’t we just delete the category? All artists from Hawaii are presumably already in Category:Artists from Hawaii. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:53, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

- I am opposed. The early painters of Hawaiian people and landscapes were artists on European ships, who by no stretch of the imagination could be considered to be “from Hawaii”.–
  ~2025-38015-67 (talk) 22:00, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Those articles should be purged. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  Which is why I say purge and merge. A person on a passing ship who painted the people in Hawaii, and then Tonga, and then Australia, and then China, and then India, and then the Cape Colony, and then the Gold Coast, and then returned to England, is not defined by any of these locations he was painting people in, and so we do not need this category for such people.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:42, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Music of Ukraine subdivisions

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). GoldRomean (talk) 18:17, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator’s rationale: Upmerge redundant category layer containing only one subcategory. Mclay1 (talk) 01:11, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Politician from Offa, Kwara State

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